Ep 64 - Overcoming Guilt

hi everyone welcome to the psychology and spirituality a bridge to a better life discussion I'm your host Marcano and with me is an Sinclair hi Ann hope you're doing well hi thank you for having me very good as as we know uh and guilt is a this emotional uh experience right it's felt and uh it manifests itself in response to whatever to it can be an action a thought a word or even another feeling another emotion around something that was done wrong it can be a mistake it can be a a perception of something going wrong but in so many words guilt stems from a tension between what I want and what I expect that uh that the outcome of my action my word my thought Etc to be and I would like for us to talk about how do we overcome guilt and that tension but before we address that I wanted to introduce our program to those of you have who have have not heard it before if this is the first time watching our podcast Pro and uh and program please please note that this program the psychology and spirituality weekly talks are based on the works by Jonah d'angeles and uh it offers h a safe space right and for us to confront compare to discuss to expand our Concepts in uh want to to push those Concepts from a spiritual as well as a psychological landens so that we can get some interesting insights or even tips to lead a better life today today's episode it is sponsored by several organizations they are the United States spiritual Federation the TV man Cino the international spirit counil and iy Brazil and I always ask you to please hit subscribe if you haven't already done so and if you want to know more about this program or even other channels uh let us know you can reach us at www.sp spiritist us and if you have question or feedback or um critique anything with love to hear from you please put in the chat window and we'll address it at a later time and let's let's think about what we're going to talk about here when we say we're going to overcome guilt right when we discuss that um I'm often

n the chat window and we'll address it at a later time and let's let's think about what we're going to talk about here when we say we're going to overcome guilt right when we discuss that um I'm often in faced with um thoughts about another issue another uh Topic in itself right which is the idea of tolerance or in so many words our ability or willingness right to tolerate something especially if I don't agree with that right if there is a some sort of disagreement between uh somebody's actions and that includes my own and what I expected from them I I want to perhaps um quote Jonah d'angeles in very interesting book it's called Jesus in our days it's her first book in the of the psychological series or or also known as the psychology collection of books a series of 16 books right in that book Joanna talks to us a little bit about the fact that tolerance is an imperative right for all of us if we want to achieve m mental and emotional well-being right so tolerance for my mental and emotional well-being so she says in her books that uh those are my words but basically when we are tolerant we understand that who else who whoever right fails or or or even falls down from the from whatever social status he or she may be at because of mistake right when we understand that person and we are because we understand we're able to extend our hands we're able to be tolerant in its highest Mark and help that person to get up and um if we keep going with that thought process and from the perspective of depth psychology so let's think about what is depth psychology is the field of psychology that is concerned especially with the unconscious mind right if we think about it we start to to Grapple with the fact that uh if I am not tolerant right I am judging so de psychologist says that uh to judge other people's failure is a serious M you know serious Act and it's quite inhumane because we all make mistakes so and I Ponder on that subject right when we are unable to tolerate we're judgmental when we're

ople's failure is a serious M you know serious Act and it's quite inhumane because we all make mistakes so and I Ponder on that subject right when we are unable to tolerate we're judgmental when we're judgmental we we start to to to to Really apply certain policies rules regulations even ethical cultural systems to justify my superiority right to the other so the person that were judging the accused uh many times does not even have an opportunity to defend themselves right but if we think about it um quite and I'm going to give the mic to you just about now but if you think about it right when we when we judge others if we're really truthful about it uh most of the times our judgment is based on maybe senseless maybe a very rigid view that I I structure my mind that I I am uh I have and I'm judging the other uh I am perhaps even very arbitrary I judge you and who's my friend and I love you and I like you and I judge you less harshly than the other so there's all those Nuance approach on judgment but uh in the process of judging I reveal my own shadow right I project onto somebody uh my own uh U aspects of my personality that may be repressed and I see my own image right in the other I see that I all this this what I seen the other elicits some strong feelings including hatred right including even the desire even it's not executed on the desire but to destroy the other to to to to to eliminate the other and because of all this that's going in the Deep and of our own self there is this interesting mechanism this self-regulating process called guilt and in the guilt process many of us so it's now I'm guilty because I'm having all those emotions about the other which is really a projection of my own shadow to the other right but when I feel guilt I am trying this self regul regulating mechanism is for me to try to get back right to to to eradicate that feeling that I've done something wrong so let's pause about it and uh maybe we can talk a little bit about uh guilt what comes

ting mechanism is for me to try to get back right to to to eradicate that feeling that I've done something wrong so let's pause about it and uh maybe we can talk a little bit about uh guilt what comes in that um uncon the person unconscious and all of it because last time we met and talk about guilt we talked a lot about uh parenting right and I don't know if you remember but we discussed all the conscious or unconscious impact of parenting and how do we deal with that from a guilt perspective but now let's move the parents aside let's talk about the process itself can you can you tell me something and I'd love to hear from you and your thoughts and thank you thank you so much Maria it's lovely to be here and to have the opportunity to stop and think I I I'm a simple person and I like to just think about you know what's this all about so I take it uh as in everything whenever I've got um a crisis or drama in the life or with my kids and things I so take okay so where are we what is what is the risk at the moment you know what just read it back down to the basics you know what are we feeling what are we worried about out and what can we do about it yes and uh I think that the issues around feelings of guilt they are very also mixed up with a lot of our cultural and social um habits Customs from this life from previous lives so sometimes it's it's difficult to untangle everything and it might s seem like you know we're trying to go up Everest in sandals you know what I mean I love it love the image let's just bring it back to the simple things you know and uh say wow there's a lot here but one of the things we can start with is thinking you know who am I I am a child of God I am a being of light just as you are and just as everybody on the planet is we are God's children we are created simple and ignorant and we go having experiences through many lives in which we go building our knowledge our wisdom developing um our understanding about ourselves and about relating to our neighbors our family our

rant and we go having experiences through many lives in which we go building our knowledge our wisdom developing um our understanding about ourselves and about relating to our neighbors our family our community and the The Wider community so everything that that affects me affects everybody else as well so when you talk about things like the projection and like say what do I see see in others that is really are bothering me yeah what do I see so where does my attention go what calls my attention so when you're going along the motorway or the highway as they say in the US and you're looking out of the window you're the passenger of course not the driver you're looking out the window and you're looking on one side and you're seeing beautiful mountains and nature and animals oh that's beautiful whatever or you might be looking out on the other side and there's lots of you know ult situations sad things and you go oh that's sad you know those poor housing those people in the street no where to go and you're thinking the journey is the same it depends where your focus goes are you interested in looking one side or the other there's no right or wrong but wherever you're looking there is something to learn there yes so when we are attracted uh by to others because of what they do that affects us like it upsets us it make us angry it it triggers us as a modern word that people like to use then thinking like why is why is that affecting me why is what that person said affecting me so much oh it's because they are this and they are that and you know they they they they they whoops stop roll they they are giving us the opportunity to pay attention to something about ourselves yes not comfortable because we are just accusing them of something you know bad we don't like that I always remember once when we were talking about one of the main things that the spirits in the in the spiritist teachings suggest to us as a means of advancement and growth is self- knowledge self- knowledge is really difficult because we

ing about one of the main things that the spirits in the in the spiritist teachings suggest to us as a means of advancement and growth is self- knowledge self- knowledge is really difficult because we don't have the habit of really looking at ourselves in the mirror and we just believe uh the pr that we set out about ourselves I love it rather what's really there but when something in somebody else really bothers us there's a clue there as uncomfortable as it might be that might take us back so you talk about regulating mechanisms yes God's law the law of the universe however you want to put it is perfect and it balances itself perfectly because we are not there yet we are still you know on the beginning of our spiritual Journeys we struggle sometimes to understand the Perfection of how things turn up at the right time the right place and you know how did this happen because we are still um dealing with things in in quite a reactive way you know you say I say this that this that but the the mechanisms of the universe they're not in a hurry they they like geology time yes everything will happen in due course yeah so when we think about guilt we can say that all of us we make mistakes if you can't accept that you make mistakes then you need to stop and think a little bit because it's inevitable it's part of our ignorance it's part of our how do we know what is good and what is bad how do we experiment different things and learn and conclude and learn what the consequences are it's by doing things just like children so we do things and sometimes uh the consequences are not good and then we could potentially hide that from everybody else nobody saw us do the wrong thing so we are safe we're getting away with it inverted commas you don't get away with anything the you know universal justice is there but it's not because it's a punitive God or punitive system that's persecuting you and got to find you wherever and bring you what you you no it's because it's an educational system

l justice is there but it's not because it's a punitive God or punitive system that's persecuting you and got to find you wherever and bring you what you you no it's because it's an educational system yes and so you need to be able to face the consequences of your actions so that you can learn from it but sometimes if you've done something wrong and you've got away with it whatever it is and then you think oh my gosh I'm safe nobody will ever know we can just hide that and carry on but you can't hide it from yourself and one day it comes knocking because somebody out there does something similar and you accuse them because you know exactly how that is because you've done it although you've forgotten about it by now you've hidden it but but it's registered right and if I sorry for yeah every every single experience and and I think it's a you started by saying the Journey of the Mortal Soul right and and I joke I joke this is my joke my personal joke that uh today I'm living my uh Incarnation number 10,000 10,000 right so it is a lot of experience right and and it's it's it's full of uh perhaps a historical context that I inherit but it's also in in in in in in full of cultural right the zist of each incarnation so I I kind of I bring that with me uh the the the the spirit that lived for example during which was before my time World War II is very different than the spirit today Marcia that had a very different Lifetime and yet very different than children being born as we speak today right so very different Spirit type but back to me in my uh Incarnation number 10,000 I have all of that in addition to everything bringing on uh your thought your learnings right and the learnings in many many times are happened because we failed right we failed we made a mistake we became frustrated we got angry we we got in the middle of this outburst of anger and violence we killed right we we hurt we did so many things in those process that may have taken uh a millennia to get to where I

rated we got angry we we got in the middle of this outburst of anger and violence we killed right we we hurt we did so many things in those process that may have taken uh a millennia to get to where I am today but uh what I just wanted to bring to everybody all of this is registered in the in in the map of our spirit in the the that memory that may not be completely available at our fingertip from a conscious level but it is there in our personal unconscious and I think this is what you're talking about it's all there right uh and and uh and because of it one way to deal with it is projecting right but the other is things out there things trigger my own mechanism of feeling guilty right my own inadequacies my own past mistakes yeah and I think that one of the important things to consider because if if we think in the past or anybody who's had like a incarnations quite recently uh with severe um Society or religious rulings in which your mistake could lead to uh condemning to death to hell to no recourse to to try again or to improve that kind of um philosophy or or or makeup is very severe and has put us into a mindset yeah we don't even want to admit it to ourselves because the consequences will be so grave yes but I have to bring it back to the teachings of Jesus and uh how misunderstood in a way uh perhaps he has been because when he says things like you know um to to the woman who was being condemned by her her societal group and then they they give up and uh he says well you know who's condemning you and she said no and she said said go and sin no more yeah go and sin no more means you know go and learn from this yes you know and this is this this is the law we we have to learn from things so if we have done something which is whether it's little or big and it's gone against let's say the universe's laws H it will niggle us like a stone in our shoe until we come face to face with it but sometimes we are afraid of what that might mean because we have these Demons of the past of being so judged of

laws H it will niggle us like a stone in our shoe until we come face to face with it but sometimes we are afraid of what that might mean because we have these Demons of the past of being so judged of being so condemned that we have to try and hide it as best we can survive if you like but when we mature as a spirit and we see that uh there is the fundamentals of the universe are love and it's all about learning and developing that nothing is the end of the world that that's one of my my common Expressions I say well whatever happens nothing is the end of the world what used to seem like the end of the world is no more even our physical death is not the end of the world because if this body dies I continue as uh spirit form and then I can have another life another opportunity so nothing is is is ever the end but to be able to um face the consequences or of our actions or or our thoughts or whatever we we we did in a calm and adult responsible way of actually looking at it say okay yeah I get that not good and learning from it rather than reacting like a small child and pushing it away and saying it wasn't me it wasn't me it was my brother you know yes yes it's it's just being brave to be able to face the things so what is the worst we have done yeah and uh looking at it like that and I think it it just it's so liberating to think that way yeah to break away from this very constraining always of thought and just going back to say the motivator behind everything in the universe is the law of love yes love and that we are we are expected to develop our ability to love yes where does that start yes we need to be able to love ourselves yes and and I think uh if I may don't don't don't hold hold on to your thoughts right but I I think uh uh when we when we discuss guilt and the shadow right that's a that shadow that just doesn't quiet itself it's like oh Marcia I'm part of your repressed memory but there is that uh disturbing thought that is knowing at you right and uh it

he shadow right that's a that shadow that just doesn't quiet itself it's like oh Marcia I'm part of your repressed memory but there is that uh disturbing thought that is knowing at you right and uh it knowing so much as it tries to tries to to come up to the surface that it may lead to certain aspects of unbalance or uh emotional uh dis adjustments maladjustments or even disease mental or physical disease because it is as we mentioned before engraved in this this panel that makes uh all of us Unique Individuals right and and what I wanted to say here and before you move forward is the fact that this mechanism which you talking about self-love right it's one that in itself it's quite interesting right I feel guilty and I can stay remain forever I have a story that I can tell you about it if we have time but um I can remain guilty forever or I can allow that guilt to come through right and with guilt comes remorse with remorse comes the realization that I've done something wrong with that realization I can reach out to myself or to you who is the object of my wrongdoing and and say hey I've done something wrong and please please do you have room in your heart to forgive me but let's not stop there right we I we have an entire uh multitude of lifetimes to engage in that process of reparation so that the bonds between me and you is no longer a bond of I am indebted to you right uh you're my creditor you require that I do something but as a repair the bond now becomes one of love and beauty and affection and and a commitment to help the other does this make sense to you yes it does and I think that you know H this thing like you were saying the guilt yeah yeah forgiveness yeah and I have come across people that cannot forgive themselves cannot yeah so although the person who suffered the wrong inverted commas has already freed them and moved on and say you know I for you I I'm I'm past this I'm gone I'm on something else yeah they're caught up in their own guilt and they can't forgive

wrong inverted commas has already freed them and moved on and say you know I for you I I'm I'm past this I'm gone I'm on something else yeah they're caught up in their own guilt and they can't forgive themselves could say how could I have done this how could I have done this and it's just so interesting because this is like a sentence that this person in particular case I'm thinking about is to say I cannot forgive myself I have been you know bad or evil or whatever and I have done this horrible thing there is no no forgiveness for me so there's nobody else saying this to the person the person is saying to themselves yeah and and then you say but why why can't you forgive yourself why are you better than anybody else anybody could have made this mistake yes you know yes so you now have to accept your own Humanity your own level of evolution that you are at the stage where you still make mistakes like this it's okay this is who you are important yeah to Heaven you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah have a um an illusion about where we are on the scale of evolution because we are so accustomed to uh showing this mask of our Perfection and how good we are and all this and hiding all the negativities that we end up believing our our own advertising and not really recognize what's going behind and when we have that moment say I could not have done this I couldn't you know M you know nobody can forgive me is say no you're just thinking that you're better than others yes you know all of us it's uh yeah it's a this this here right and I point it to my head but I'm really thinking the entire mental emotional makeup that is expressed by our mental well-being is complicated right we there's so much in inside of us that is is very hard I was uh I was reading um just not so long ago uh the the may I it's a it's a completely outside of what we're talking but I think it t talks a little bit about what you're saying which is uh as we know Sigman Freud you know late 19th century father

the the may I it's a it's a completely outside of what we're talking but I think it t talks a little bit about what you're saying which is uh as we know Sigman Freud you know late 19th century father the father of psychology comes in and he bring BRS his entire approach to psychology from a disease right so it's a you are ill therefore I'm going to classify and I'm gonna fix quote unquote fix you not being well into becoming well wow I think it was like 40 some years later maslo comes in with this humanis IC psychology approach which is uh a complement um to Freud so now he brings on the psychology of Health mental health so they start to complement each other and the famous famous uh manal hierarchy of needs where you start to look at individual comprehend that in at the very basis is mostly phys phological needs and then it goes on into that psychological uh and emotional well-being until the self actualization right where that point is uh where all your latent all the baggage that you brought from your uh 99,999 previous Incarnation right because we we we make mistakes we have them with us but we also have a lot of potential a lot of things that it's right to be developed and grow and and and Bloom if you will uh so uh the self-actualization which is the peak of maso's pyramid uh is is when we start to do well at with all the potentials that we have right and then maslo develops with uh uh Victor Frankle gr etc etc there's several psychologist and and philosophers and thought leaders that started this so-called depth psychology or transpersonal psychology right which many people call it the Force fourth of psychology which deals beyond the best of the best and the Beyond see us peak in your Peak there is we we've already come to the edge of it and he said that's not enough just like Freud was not enough to explain humanistic psychology is not enough let's now talk about now the spiritual right component which is all embedded in that unconscious the the personal unconscious that you bring and

t enough to explain humanistic psychology is not enough let's now talk about now the spiritual right component which is all embedded in that unconscious the the personal unconscious that you bring and of course we bring now Joan Angeles Angel energy Angeles picks up from the fourth force and she's pushing on she keeps you know bringing moving to the edge of it all to say to really ask us to look at our life from the many many dimensions from the very physical Dimension from the dimension of not being well being sick Freud right from being positive and and approaching all the the stages of development in the maso and then all the others which are the our experiences our spiritual experiences but what else which is I think you were right there when you're talking about which is all about learning the most what can I say Sublime the most amazing and pure feeling that we all have access which is the ability to love in the expression of love right which is forgiveness yeah Indulgence patience it is also courage right courage to fail I think that's probably one of the aspects that I think is most important for all of us to be courageous enough to fail but fail knowing that this is just a step into succeeding and bringing in there also tolerance that you were talking about earlier so it's it's it's interesting because sometimes when we start thinking about depth psychology if you're like me you might become a little bit overwhelmed as me difficulties with my life here never mind with all all the shadow business and all this depth and all this that from oh all this crazy stuff this and so we can just bring it say okay so what jelis is bringing to us and all these psychologists have brought to us is not the need for all of us to be going to therapy and you know having to fix ourselves if you like it's more about thinking of understanding that we have this psychological element to us yes and because life has moved on and you talk about Mars love and you can think about us let's say well we we are

's more about thinking of understanding that we have this psychological element to us yes and because life has moved on and you talk about Mars love and you can think about us let's say well we we are Western um women here but our lives in the 21st century or the 20th century or the 19th century or the 18th century just going back a century to time yeah life demanded sometimes going backwards that from the majority of the population survival all all your energy was dedicated to surviving another day providing the food to keeping safe from from danger and if you women to having children and then eventually dying and it was life was very at the mle of you know the bottom of the pyramid yeah for the majority of people of course there's always angels of Illumination who are amongst us bring us higher thought and things but the majority of the people we were that level now we're kind of moving up a level yeah and just saying so what do we do with that because now actually we have a little bit of time and we start to realize other things and we're looking around and trying to make sense of why do I feel like this or or even like say some people they could be judgmental to others and being accusing whatever and they're not even stopping to think about it but a lot say why am I like this you know what's prompting this what's provoking this in me you know what part of me and that's it's about this that self- knowledge and psychological maturity right yeah exactly and she she introduces ways of us to think about uh the this deep personal unconscious what we bring and how the things that we don't deal with the things that we sweep under the carpet they go nowhere they just make the carpet go lumpy they G have to come out at some point you know it's is an illusion to be hiding things sometimes we need to put things under the carpet because we're not able at that time to deal with it it's too much for us that's fair enough but at some point we need to let things start to come out because with those

to put things under the carpet because we're not able at that time to deal with it it's too much for us that's fair enough but at some point we need to let things start to come out because with those things we've hidden they're all things that we've we have forgotten yes and it's just been able to look and to have that confidence to own up and say yes I've done this because this is me at this point of evolution now how can I make this better you know what changes can I make and you will find many times curiously let the spirits they write many stories and books and when you've failed in a particular area you tend to come back and want to fix that area so I know a friend of mine he's a a physiotherapist he's fixing everybody's body making everybody's neck good again everybody's arms and legs and he was like so excited you know there such a good job blah blah and then he was saying like oh you know I feel such a Healer I'm healing everybody yeah I'm making everybody better but when he asked to see you know he's thinking is coming on a long trajectory of healing you know other yes but his when he ask for that memory to be shown to him in a regression what he sees is the opposite he was a torturer he was dising other people's bodies uhuh and now he's come back to make people heal to put their B so to me this is beautiful and but it's a good example and many people do not subscribe in in in uh regression therapy but uh it no judgment right no judgment here but how beautiful it is on one hand that he's able to um address that guilt that somehow it must be buried right it's a different life may not remember that so he uses his entire lifetime to be the best that he can do to kind of undo the hurt that he was an instrument of but also it begs us to think about from a ego self perspective right from that egoic or or um super high and mighty ego in the in the ego self uh equation that I'm a Healer and then you go like o I'm a Healer you see I'm a healer look at all the the long list of patients which even

ic or or um super high and mighty ego in the in the ego self uh equation that I'm a Healer and then you go like o I'm a Healer you see I'm a healer look at all the the long list of patients which even this the story brings us with the fact that uh deep inside of him um and I've heard of people that extremely accomplished like this person the highest in their career the Pinnacle of whatever and they approach it with a sense almost of Despair and I wonder if it's because the mechanism that is buried inside of guilt think about it right it's buried it's not recognized but there is a a feeling that gnaws at you even when you do your best and you feel perhaps I haven't done enough but the other side of the coin because we we need to make these things differently if pretend let's put the head that we are God or a mentor right put the head and uh we look at this this this friend and for example he goes into this uh regression therapy he finds out that uh the thing that he was the most proud in his life the ability to help others and to heal now he is face to face confronted with this idea that hey look look at who you really are right you're nothing and this person may just you know go into a state of perhaps despair this is all from my head real let me yeah because I think that even you know what comes to you in regressions and things like that spontaneously or or I do believe you know we have our spiritual team that's with us and they're supporting us even in that is who he was that is not who he is anymore exactly is the Healer yes and he has been able to do that transition yes because and I think that's what I wanted sorry to drop because that's what I wanted to to Really emphasize to you and to me and to all of us who are watching this even if you go through and confront the darkest side of yourself we should honor the step and the movement toward overcoming that yeah right that but what I wanted to say is that this happens almost naturally yes beautiful to hear yeah because this person I'm giving this

uld honor the step and the movement toward overcoming that yeah right that but what I wanted to say is that this happens almost naturally yes beautiful to hear yeah because this person I'm giving this example as a way of trying to examplify so I mean no sure makes a decision when they're 18 or 17 or something you know what I like sport I I like muscles let me become a physiotherapist that sounds like a good job for me goes to university studies I said I really enjoy this I really I really enjoy making people whole again making their bodies move well you know and has great joy of it is it is a joyous experience and then because they were curious because they wanted like um to thinking about oh I must have been doing this many lives because I can do this really well this is kind of where it was coming from and then it was given this view say no actually well maybe in what you were doing was actually the opposite but you are given the opportunity to do it good and now so that kind of was like a bit of a reality call yes so it's it's not necessarily appropriate or or or useful as you're saying to any of us sometimes to we actually see what we've done we don't need to see we need to be able to forgive to love and start with ourselves and if we love ourselves let's say and and whatever job we do whether it's flipping burgers or doing heart surgery it's all equally important people need to eat and people need to have their hearts fixed but whatever you're doing you're doing it with love and to to the best of your ability there is a reason why you're doing that job and what why you're serving your brothers and sisters in that way and I think it's really beautiful that life takes you there naturally yes and so sometimes you for example you have a lawyer defending you know the worst criminals and you think why why would they choose this it's not for us to know why they choose this but for sure there's an inner motivation that take takes them to that place so in whichever place we

criminals and you think why why would they choose this it's not for us to know why they choose this but for sure there's an inner motivation that take takes them to that place so in whichever place we are let us do our best I love by ourselves and loving what we're doing and doing it by giving and serving because it is the love that transforms everything so we don't need to go to courtroom and see all our past mistakes and show in the face and make us humiliated and and sorry and everything no we just know that we have made mistakes because everybody has it's inevit is part of our human condition but saying that as from today we try to avoid doing to unto others what we wouldn't like them to do to us just simple rule and try to be honest and open and say yeah we made a mistake I own up I made a mistake I'm sorry how can I can make it better rather than hiding it under the carpet again or in the shadow if you like but I think that it's needs to come from a place first of wherever we are that we love and accept ourselves and that we don't have an expectation of a Perfection that we still don't have but which we will attain one day yes but not today yeah I I I think version of ourselves ever yes yes I love it I love it this is those are such beautiful uh end as we end our conversation here beautiful words and uh uh as you're speaking it comes that image in my mind in U that you alluded already which is uh Jesus right uh at the time uh not only in the mosaic laws um adultery was a crime a sin right and that deserved death and not just death but death by stoning and and he's faced with this woman that was this is me trying to to be a 21st century uh sensationalist she was caught in the act she was there was evidence there is no way that she said I didn't commit she did commit and she was put there in a public area with a lot of men they're all men ready to Stone her and and of course through the mechanism of his ability to to to demonstrate to each and everyone that he could see the mistakes

re in a public area with a lot of men they're all men ready to Stone her and and of course through the mechanism of his ability to to to demonstrate to each and everyone that he could see the mistakes in all others they did not have the authority to Stone her but as you said and I I I I kind of uh find it really really beautiful the fact that he never said oh go on my child nobody stoned you nobody condemned you go on bye now go back to your life bye he looks at her and he sees all her failings and her failures her mistakes her transgressions in the lifetime of lifetimes that she has had and yet he says you're okay the sum if you will is good right if you put all together you're ready to move on to the next PATH the next level of your journey my child and he says like you said before go and sin no more and and by saying that she can redirect her effort her life to no longer fall into the same uh area of mistakes but I think for all of us what I'd like to part here and is to know that if we judge ourselves and we do consciously or not we do and we feel guilty right overcoming our guilt is an act as kind as that that we witness from Jesus into that woman right it it he never said I forgive you right yeah he said you were forgiven you were forgiven and and let us be bring that to our minds that all of our mistakes like you said big or small they're there but they're learning uh opportunities for us so let us learn and let us embrace all that is beautiful and uh and that in a non-judgmental way for us and for the others let us be loving and welcoming to who we are in whatever stage of development we may be beautiful yeah anyways it is time so and I want to say thank you until we meet again I want to say goodbye to everyone I appreciate you being here and uh I appreciate all of us learning together about psychology and spirituality until next time