Ep 38 - What to Expect From Your Inner Child

Mansão do Caminho 27/10/2023 (há 2 anos) 49:43 1,160 visualizações

* Psychology and Spirituality | What to Expect from Your Inner Child The Psychology and Spirituality weekly talks are based on the works by Joanna de Angelis and offer a safe space to confront, compare, correlate, and expand spirituality concepts from a psychological lens bringing insights, actionable tips, and real-world advice to help you lead a better life. Dr. Anahy Fonseca, Jussara Korngold, Anne Sinclair and Marcia Trajano meet to talk about our Inner Child. They meet previously and discussed parental complexes. Today's episode they shift the focus to the child complex. The program is sponsored by: AME Brasil - www.amebrasil.org.br TV Mansão de Caminho - hhtp://mansaodocaminho.com.br The International Spiritist Council - https://cei-spiritistcouncil.com The United States Spiritist Federation - https://spiritist.us

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hello everyone welcome to the psychology in spirituality a bridge to a better life discussion I am your host Mercia tro and with me are Dr Ana fona and jar corn go if this is your first time that uh you are watching this podcast like program please note that our program which is psychology and spirituality has a weekly talks and they are based on the works by Jo and Angeles offering a safe space to confront compare correlate and expand spirituality Concepts from a psychological end and as such bringing insights actionable tips and advice to help you and me lead a better life today we will address our inner child and uh let's just remind we spoke previously about parental complexes so now it's time to shift the conversation to the child complex and before we start our conversation I just wanted to recognize the organizations that are sponsoring this program they are Amy Brazil the TV man cin the international Spirits Council and the United States spirit Federation make sure you hit subscribe if you haven't done so already and if you'd like to check us out and uh know more information about what we're doing please go to spiritist us spiritist us and if you have any questions please write them down would' love to hear from you any comments any feedback any questions and we'll address at a later episode but a na jar it's good to see you I would like to make a recommendation is that okay yeah I would like to share story actually it's based on a script of a 2000 Disney movie that starred uh Bruce Willis and uh the kid is the name of the the the movie it's a very interesting because it can help us visualize what we're going to be talking today so The Story Goes Russ duritz that's Bru Willis is a very wealthy LA image Consulting consultant and as he this is very important right as he nears his 40th birthday midlife crisis let's think right halfway through his life we encountered this man who's goodlooking very wealthy but oh boy very cynical and beyond that very harsh type of

s he nears his 40th birthday midlife crisis let's think right halfway through his life we encountered this man who's goodlooking very wealthy but oh boy very cynical and beyond that very harsh type of personality he is also strange from his father and oh by the way remembers nothing about his childhood and one day so the story goes he's uh sleeping and he wakes up to find an intruder in his home and that Intruder is a eight-year-old boy that turns out to be this chubby version of himself rusty rusty and Russ start in this film a journey to understand who they are and how to uncover all the things that were part of their childhood and how to move on I think there's enough there for just get started and can we talk maybe about the concept of the inner child and references movie if you haven't seen it I recommend it for you to see it at a later time shall we yes hello everyone so it's a great movie and um Bruce Willis is great in the role of this adult man that is very narcissistic in a certain way right and and finds himself so important um of course if he's kind of a narcissist so empathy would be you know very low and he's hiding actually it's a of course it's a kind of a irony because he is an image consultant as Mara said uh and he hides behind the Persona so the mask yeah that we have talked already about and he hides his pain and his child uh childhood traumas right the the inner child trauma so we all have an inner child because we all have been children right so uh we say that the memories uh and the feelings emotions and of course traumas of course that we have uh that are part of this complex of the inner child uh they are kept in our unconscious mind because the ego of the child it's very fragile so the ego protects itself against having to deal with something that the child doesn't understand but feels the child feels everything the child is very much connected as we I think we talked about that when we talked about parental complexes it's pretty much uh you know

e child doesn't understand but feels the child feels everything the child is very much connected as we I think we talked about that when we talked about parental complexes it's pretty much uh you know connected very connected with the UN conscious the unconscious of mother and father and the caretakers so what happen is that um many times because we are not perfect and father and mother have their own problems and conflicts the child will uh uh will feel uh the dramas let's say that are in the unconscious of the parents and of course something that happens also the Dynamic of the family things that are difficult for everybody included the adults that take care of the child so uh the child will feel everything uh will have an inner experience of suffering or of pain but will not be able to deal with that in so so what you mean to articulate the the trauma that they're going through yeah to give sense to because the the child doesn't have a you know as we uh talked previously uh the the thinking is very concrete sure so if a mother is crying for instance the child will feel guilty because we think she or he has done something to cause the the mother's crying for instance and sadness if for instance especially if the child and they are always like oh I don't want to do that I don't like you because you're sending me to bed early are you are saying that I cannot look to you know the the TV program that I want to look so so the the thinking is very Concrete in the child and so if mother or father are upset so she must be resp or he must be responsible and of course doesn't have the abstract thinking that uh we are going to develop in adolescent years and and of course adult as adult uh the abstract thinking the reasoning oh but maybe something happened um that you know my aunt called my mom and then she was upset later on so maybe they must have argued or something like that so this is very abstract thinking okay because it's complex thinking causeing consequence and things like that

mom and then she was upset later on so maybe they must have argued or something like that so this is very abstract thinking okay because it's complex thinking causeing consequence and things like that and what can influence our emotions for instance the child doesn't know anything about that so it's a it's very concrete the thinking so what happens is that uh we are of course we are going to have some kind of uh hurt in childhood and it can turn to a tra a big trauma for instance right so we don't want to give people spoilers but we have to we will we will we will this cute small boy he's eight years old right and the main character Russ is turning 40 something like that and it was in that age that we're going to learn later on that he had a big trauma maybe we're going to tell people the trauma in the end of our podcast but that makes sense no I think what what we should do because it's very relevant to what you said and and if if I may just uh uh if you want to watch the movie and you don't want just please watch the movie and come back to the podcast but basically basically uh and and I love what you said the magical thinking right not the concrete thinking at at uh for the boy was that he was called in the principal's office and had to go home and he associated that with the death of his mother right so I think it's very interesting how all of it is associated did you see anything else before we we move forward from from that trauma yeah remember that the father when he when they get home yeah the father doesn't hit him but you know really does something like that shakes him right yeah and says grow up you have to grow up so that was erased from the conscious mind right because it's very very threatening emotionally threatening for the stability and for the ego of the child the small child does the small child doesn't have uh you know means or ways of uh uh of dealing with such emotions and understanding what later on when he realizes that he has to help uh his inner child right but the kids that

mall child doesn't have uh you know means or ways of uh uh of dealing with such emotions and understanding what later on when he realizes that he has to help uh his inner child right but the kids that is there uh and and understand what happened because he had forgotten everything about his childhood as you said uh previously so what happens is that the father says grow up you have to grow up and as a an adult he understood that the father was really scared to raise him alone but as a child that's the concrete thinking uh if the father says grow up you have to grow up don't cry and the father says don't cry yes so uh he's not allowed to suffer for from you know to and to have fear of losing the mother his mother and um so he cannot suffer the meaning for the child don't cry is you're not allowed and you shouldn't suffer uh because you know you're are going to make father suffer you are going to be resp responsible as you said for suffering or for even the death of your mother so um what happens what we call a narcissistic defense when you shut down and you shut yourself inside yourself right we could say like that and uh he uh grew up to be a man who wouldn't feel anything and we can see in the movie a lack of empathy for his secretary that was wonderful I love the character by the way of the secretary and of course he was feeling something for um the the lady who is the main like his romantic there but he wouldn't acknowledge that because he was he was you know he was uh protecting himself he couldn't feel anything feeling would be threatening for his balance but but he's uh okay he's in the his middle age he's 40 right 40 years old he's turning 40 uh so what happens is that uh his inner child was screaming inside of himself let's say and materializes we could say that and just turns up in his living room or whatever so uh in if you realize in the beginning he was really mad go away go away and we feel like how can he say something to such a cute little boy right so very

ust turns up in his living room or whatever so uh in if you realize in the beginning he was really mad go away go away and we feel like how can he say something to such a cute little boy right so very cold so this is all a narcissistic defense and we know that when a person is acting like that is because the person is suffering a lot but what I would especially yes go ahead make a question um why do we call it narcissistic uh I I I I um I think many of us may be in doubt about this terminology because we always think in terms of narcissism in terms of you know admiring our ourselves and in this case definitely we see a shut down from trauma but why do we call narcissistic well we use uh we use the myth of Narcissus the Greek uh the Greek myth um and of course because he was lost he was not only like in love with himself this is part of the story but he was uh kind of lost in his own image but the image reflected outside of narcissus not this looking to the inside of ourselves so that's why we call I I think that's an easy way to understand we call a narcissistic defense because the child uh doesn't have um you know sophisticated defense mechanisms so the child is will only try to protect himself herself by shutting down let's say and um just um looking in a sense like Narcissus the the Greek myth uh just looking outside of of itself could could we could we say looking at the outside as form versus content and uh form as an example of ego as a ego structure conscious structure that he created for his Persona versus what all the deeply buried feeling and emotions that would betray his trauma as a child that's great that's a great an explanation because it's simple that's great Mara yeah and I and also um for us to remember we have already talked about the shadow right right the opposite of the Persona and we have said that in the shadow many times there are very nice aspects of uh the the personality but the ego is not able to deal with them so for instance in in his shadow was for

e of the Persona and we have said that in the shadow many times there are very nice aspects of uh the the personality but the ego is not able to deal with them so for instance in in his shadow was for instance empathy and love and feeling because all of this threatened him father had had told him don't cry grow up so don't feel don't connect to your pain right so uh I think maybe now it's a little clear that and also just I think it's interesting U that you asked about narcissis because if we are disconnected from the richness of our that we are in our UNC conscious in our inner home let's say then we lose authentic it right we are just trying to copy and the irony is that he was a um image consultant yeah would say use your hair like this and and like that and talk like this and that but um and I think this is very interesting because we are uh socially let's say and globally pretty much in this kind of n narcissistic posture right that we have to look of what other other people wear and and dress or act and try to imitate and this is very narcissistic and we lose our authenticity that it's a richness of human species of us like human beings what characterizes us but I would like I would love to listen to Listen to Jada and also you Mara about one aspect also that we have seen that in the core of our complexes are what you call the archetypes ancient forms types that are ancient right and in the core of our complex our own experience of the inner child is the archetype of the child and the archetype of the child a child and it doesn't matter the age the civilization and it doesn't matter the culture we know that uh children you know they bring life they bring energy creativity future rebirth right always when we are upset if we have Lo lost someone or you know if we have had some kind of um of um not exactly we can be depressed but some kind of uh thing that happened in our lives that we felt like losing something very important if we go to a park and see children playing for

kind of um of um not exactly we can be depressed but some kind of uh thing that happened in our lives that we felt like losing something very important if we go to a park and see children playing for instance right we feel already oh you know there is hope so since we are also talking about J jelis and about spiritist knowledge and reincarnation and rebirth right what do you guys think about that about the archetype of the inner child and why is so important for us to connect uh the archetype of the child and why it's so important to for us to connect with the inner child I'd love to hear you guys just had any thoughts oh yeah well what what I wanted to to talk was actually a a a different aspect of it if if you don't mind because while you talking what came to my mind um was and of course we're now moving away from the movie but really the the sense of what is uh that moving that growing growing beyond your inner child and what came to my mind anay was actually uh in our society how difficult it is when we we are seeing so much of the helicopter parents right doing the opposite that we saw in the movies and the movies would be perhaps 40 years well 30 years before 2000 maybe in the right 60s 70s where a different so uh Society a different culture nevertheless not the culture that we see today from a parenting uh of our children and what I thought about it is are we losing something in in this either becoming eternally trapped in being a child meaning not growing up to be the adult that we need to be or the opposite which happened to this movie which is a father figure uh pushing that young person to grow up without really allowing the time to mature so those are the things that came to my mind but you had asked about uh the idea of rebirth and reincarnation which as we know is Central to spiritism it's core of spiritism and in in the movie there's a little bit of that where he needed to go through a rebirth right a going back to what he was to be able to then move forward and that's

o spiritism it's core of spiritism and in in the movie there's a little bit of that where he needed to go through a rebirth right a going back to what he was to be able to then move forward and that's what was very crisp to me and and quite beautifully done in in the movie for example where uh he had to experience the pain once removed right now he was removed from being a child his 40-year-old almost 40y old self reliving the past was able to then allow him to be born again and start aesh in A New Path it's almost like in in in my mind's eye he died and he had a second chance a second in ation a second uh opportunity to deal with all the baggage that he brought with him and I think that this is uh very much what the benefactor J evangelist is all the time you know talking to us and this is why she she's she goes so deep in terms of the psychon uh analysis and and and thinking about ourselves and not being afraid to to deal with that because if you think for a minute you know um uh of course this what they show in the movie not the O only event that has made you know such a big trauma and and then you know they indicate the death of the mother but we can only imagine what comes out next and uh uh I mean that was the huge aspect on the other hand we will think how can a child deal with that and of course the father was trying to do the best that he could and thinking that refraining and getting used to you know what we call it tough love right it's tough love you have to you have to get used to that so in a sense for us now nowadays and even talking about what you were saying Maria in terms of you know how hard it's been for us to grow up I think that today you know in the past 30 years with all the technological advancements that we have and this is also you know something that is we we we read here in this book mirrors of the Soul by inspired by The Works of Shan the angelist uh there was so much advancements there so many movements in terms of liberations of everything and

is we we we read here in this book mirrors of the Soul by inspired by The Works of Shan the angelist uh there was so much advancements there so many movements in terms of liberations of everything and now I I think that we are entitled beings and uh I I don't care how old I am I'm entitled to everything and then we go to this uh to this kind of behavior and he start you know um dealing in a very childish way with everything and even when we comments there I mean uh starting from the frustrations of our uh growth you know our childhood you know the frustrations of the parents that now reflect in us and I think by the way that his profession is absolutely perfect for the situation you know uh being a an image consultant I mean he he is the the very much image of his Pro profession he lives in a Persona right and so he he knows that if his mile a certain way he's going to provoke an impact if he talks to people a certain way so he was all structure after that episode right to to to learn to do that how am I going to be accepted how are going to people you know respect me and I think that at the end of the the day all of us want that we want people even when we want people to to see us in our Instagram page and say oh my God how wonderful beautiful uh you know outfit or you know nice look or wow what a delicious dish you are eating now whatever you know I I think you know it's this need for approval that we have and uh this where is the hole and of course we cannot understand that all of this comes just from this experiences that we have in our lifetime it has to come from before so and it makes so much more sense because uh while anai was talking about you know the the the trauma and everything the narcissistic right trauma that the boy was going through I was thinking to myself how can you fix that in just one Incarnation how can you fix parent Hood right because uh I mean no one is going to to watch them move movie and and think and and not be affected by it in in both ways if you are a parent or

just one Incarnation how can you fix parent Hood right because uh I mean no one is going to to watch them move movie and and think and and not be affected by it in in both ways if you are a parent or in one way if you are you know you remember your childhood in case you are not a parent so and and again is with dealing with responsibilities cause and effect uh although we may excuse the fact and understand why he made that comment we cannot be oblivious to the pain that it caused and and the trauma that it caused to the child and how can a parent fix that and how can a child fix that in just one existence you know I think that like you said the beauty of all of this is like when we are really ready to face those traumas and and and revisiting ourselves paying more attention to what we are uh not being afraid to walk the first steps to to get better this is this is the process but it's not going to finish in just one Incarnation I wish and and uh if we think about it right I'm I'm moving away a little bit from the storyline and even the subject matter specifically Jada but if we move in terms of what you mentioned earlier uh we live in a society that uh it's quite uh comfortable right we have grown to have access to so much wealth like the character right wealth and technology and and just so much opportunity that life in a material perspective that form is given to us but if we disconsider and that I'm I'm thinking of you and I to to break down those concept but if you disconsider if we repress all the content and by content I mean the emotional content the depth of each one of us then it's all Hollow at the end of the day in The 40-Year-Old the midlife crisis very symbolic in my uh way of perceiving right that's when most of us will have our famous uh midlife crisis and that's when you visit or revisit um not the eight-year-old cute little boy as an in in our house but we revisit some anxieties some unst some things that you may not even know what it is but gives you a sense of

you visit or revisit um not the eight-year-old cute little boy as an in in our house but we revisit some anxieties some unst some things that you may not even know what it is but gives you a sense of dissatisfaction I've done everything possible I am the best whatever and yet there's something missing I think you you mentioned you alluded to it before right Jara that that that Gap that is there yeah yeah just to clarify because you know um we are not just talking here whether you have wealthy or not whether have money or not you know uh because today also with all this progress and you know exposure that we have we may live in the shadows others we may you know live you know oh a movie star did that and it's like I was there myself so it has nothing to to to do about money and uh the possibilities even because uh unfortunately we know that the majority of the population of the world is struggle a lot financially speaking so all those Concepts actually has to be knocking at the doors whether you have a door or not of of everyone absolutely thank you thank you for the clarification what are your thoughts well I think uh connecting both of uh the aspects that you guy had brought uh there is one one sentence one of the lines that the main character says is that I've forgotten my childhood it is in the past where it loans he says that okay to the kid that he saying don't you remember that this don't you remember that the kid is asking him and he says that and also there's a a funny part when he goes to see this a psychiatrist of course I pay attention to that a lot of people are doing that and he says he's hallucinating his you know because he's uh seeing this child that is himself and this and that it's a very funny scene uh but he says um the the psychiatrist of course is trying to make him calm down and sit I won't sit because if if I sit I will stay 12 years talking about myself it's very interesting but um what he says it's I'm asking you to away with a medication yeah so I can go to work I

own and sit I won't sit because if if I sit I will stay 12 years talking about myself it's very interesting but um what he says it's I'm asking you to away with a medication yeah so I can go to work I can go back to work so don't we see nowadays you know everybody going to uh ask Doctors medical personnel for some medication for pain for conflict anxiety and this and that to make it all go away and it's interesting that what Shana showed the mirrors of the soul the book that uh they are discussing this part about the inner child uh one of the authors that writes this chapter says how do we lose our authenticity okay she's asking and um she's keep we always keep you know the in the psychiatric field and psychology we keep uh looking for what is authentic inside of ourselves it's very important to deal with with our own truth right yeah because not what um somebody else is thinking about us but what I'm really not only thinking but feeling about myself and only I am the person that can connect to this truth because it's inside of each one of us not outside not in the social media for sure so the authors are asking and and and saying that we lose the address of our inner home we ignore who we are from where we come and what we feel so all of these questions uh what we are from where we come and what we feel um if we don't answer to these existential uh questions we have existential emptiness that was what you guys were talking about and all this disconnection and what and hiding from our inner truth and sufferings and dramas and of course we have we all have difficult memories but exactly the difficult memories our scars are so important because they are uh what our truth what the richness of what our soul the story of our souls right so I think all of this is very important and also um there's a a um psycho not an analyst a yungan analyst James Hollis that he says if we don't examine our life and its Story We Live an unconscious life so it's what J said okay many things that happen to us are

a um psycho not an analyst a yungan analyst James Hollis that he says if we don't examine our life and its Story We Live an unconscious life so it's what J said okay many things that happen to us are supposed to happen we have chosen to to have you know to live this kind of uh um conflict and difficulties we could say because it's very important for our soul because there is a purpose there is a learning right in the process of dealing with issues that certainly in the past in our spiritual past and in our psychological p uh past we haven't been able to deal with them so I I wanted to to remember you of something also very important from the movie when just asked um was talking about leaving again and how do we deal with things so fragile as the the in a child the the memories of the past our pains and of course it cause and effect so things that we have lived that are pains in our soul not only to our personality in this life but the Movie answers in a certain way I don't know if there was a a psychologist or an analyst Consulting you know with the writer of the script but uh probably yes or maybe it was Insight you know intuitive of the writer that remember who there is an airplane that we don't know that it's it's a old airplane we don't know the size in the beginning of the movie then we see that it's a a kid toy right uh and it's his airplane and there's it's very funny and very cute the story about the airplane but who put the airplane in uh outside of his house that he goes out of his house because he sees a noise and he thinks it's the father that has put his father put the airplane because the father is moving from hous and has asked him help and he said no and he was but he thinks he's the father do you remember who put the air who puts the airplane outside of his house himself his older his his older self which is beautiful beautiful image right how can of course I I go into the metaverse right the the F to the fourth dimension where he in the future is claiming for

himself his older his his older self which is beautiful beautiful image right how can of course I I go into the metaverse right the the F to the fourth dimension where he in the future is claiming for the pain that he's going through as he's about to hit 40 which is now going back to the the the the child at at age eight and I think it's just beautifully done so thank you thank you for bringing that that image back to all of us J what are your thoughts oh I think um in terms of um you know uh dealing with uh this purpose of uh our past actually um I I'm I'm I'm very happy actually this is one thing that I would like to say that we are doing this kind of you know podcast like and presentation and having Dr Ana with us in meria because h i I think this process has helped me a lot in terms of also looking at myself at my inner child and uh not being afraid like I I said and I I I think by by uh you know having the possibility of understanding this under the light of spiritism and Joan DeAngelis and uh and even having this Disney movie that can uh condensate the whole idea in a very palatable way for us to have to to really be able to start dealing with that and so um and and and Anna you was talking about Dr holles and then there is one one pass passage here that he says uh that actually impacted me so much uh let me translate this truth in relation to the truth in relation to our inner our relationships is that uh we can never be better in our we in in within our relationships than we are with ourselves so many times this is one thing that it gets in the way when we we we all bring so much baggage right and I I think the understanding and uh not expecting that much and and also realize how much it is our way of thinking and dealing with our own problems it is going to direct our relationship with another person and uh I I I remember I mean it's your case as well Mercy I don't know if it's a na but I I don't maybe not we have to move so many times right from one country to another to houses

ith another person and uh I I I remember I mean it's your case as well Mercy I don't know if it's a na but I I don't maybe not we have to move so many times right from one country to another to houses different houses and everyone would come and ask you know how how is it and I said you know what I call home whatever I am I bring my emotions I bring you know the atmosphere that we have whether I'm living here or in another country or another country so I think we have to to think about it and and uh when the the chapter goes on they say if we allow that to happen we would be so much more capable of savoring the other beautiful yeah I think know this this is a question that we have to ask ourselves be it in a a partnership in a marriage or you know a friend relationship are we really enjoying the other way just bringing our burdens and uh not uh giving way for for us to really enjoy and Savor the relationships very good love it love it it's all about uh being your authentic self and embrace yourself if I may I would like to to to bring my very personal opinion which is the sense that uh uh we from a religious perspective right uh and we're talking about Christianity in my case and uh spiritism um we know that we're called upon this urgent urgent ask to go toward our inner transformation to go inside this journey to self-discovery and and transformation but that is done through love but love is such an abstract little word what is love what is to love and I think um Joanna d'angeles specifically within the spiritist authors but the psychology as she brings to us this this lens really makes it very palatable and this movie this discussion these series of podcast like program really uh brings that um perhaps that very tangible very concrete way to understand that it's all about loving who we are right embracing with empathetic love our all of our chubby um what was it he was embarrassed of himself right in the movie he was embarrassed as what he was what he represented as a child with uh some

right embracing with empathetic love our all of our chubby um what was it he was embarrassed of himself right in the movie he was embarrassed as what he was what he represented as a child with uh some problem of uh speech problems Etc so he fixed the outside to be that perfected image but not the inside because he was not able to really accept and love and that's the the tip of the day for all of us let's learn to love let's learn to embrace we are so that we can move forward anay what are your thoughts well I think it's wonderfully sad you in Jada and I wrote here to remind myself to talk about compassion so we are thinking the same vibrating in the same um wave uh that actually there there were some lines remember that in the beginning of the movie uh he gives advice to a lady that is sitting by his side in the airplane but just for her to shut up because it's okay in his narcissistic self and she wants some advice but in the end he goes to her and ask for advice and uh tells about the kid and all this stuff and she says to him that he has come to straighten him out and that some sentence that I think it's great and she says we don't turn out to be who we thought we would be that's what Jada was saying right yes and everything that we should take care of our inner child she doesn't say inner child that he should take care of the child and that everything would be great because we all do the best we can so to have compassion towards ourselves and uh to understand that we are doing the best we can and we are always as a spiritist knowledge tells us we are uh always going to have other chances because we are all evolving to uh to you know to the light and to back to uh the Transcendent one the this Unity as we have been taught um but I also wanted to say that this authenticity that was s um and it's beautiful said that we all have a lot of characters and it's a richness that we all uh have so the opposite of the inner child is the wise old man or W or woman right it's also an archetype the child

beautiful said that we all have a lot of characters and it's a richness that we all uh have so the opposite of the inner child is the wise old man or W or woman right it's also an archetype the child and the wise old person and uh so that the old man has put the airplane there so we have all the experiences being old and isn't that great that we can get old nowadays right because people always say no I don't want to go to grow old and this and that I want to stay young forever it's beautiful that we can turn here in in this person personality in this material world uh turned to be Wise Wise old men and women and uh connect to our inner child so we are everything at the same part this is great at the same time so this is great and this is evolution and we are all in this path thank you so much for this wonderful conversation thank you thank you everyone I just say one thank is a sub and actually kind of irony as well in this first dialogue that he has with this woman in the plane because her main concern is about uh what she she is being I think a person from Texas that has a heavy accent and a certain vocabulary and and so he tells her no this is your trademark so what's her trademark is what she is yeah her authenticity so it's so it shows that in a certain way we are cap capable of picturing or depicting in other people um what what they are what they represent but sometimes we we just go past that and do not look at exactly at I mean uh what they are their Roots uh their originality their uniqueness and and I I I think it's really interesting that he says no don't ever lose that and if you smile you're gonna be number one that's okay if we smile we are going to be number one Let's Be Who We Are are right I love it I love it and uh we we are at time but I I really want to say thank you thank you an thank you Jada for this wonderful conversation I hope all of you are able to watch the movie or think about what is the inner child what is your authentic self with that

to say thank you thank you an thank you Jada for this wonderful conversation I hope all of you are able to watch the movie or think about what is the inner child what is your authentic self with that I'll see you next week bye everyone bye bye

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