Ep 60 - Social Phobias and Inner Transformation

welcome to the psychology and spirituality a bridge to a better life discussion hello again I your host Mar and with me is our program founder jar corn go hi Jara hello I got Tongue Tied this morning but if this is the first time you're watching this podcast like program please note that our program the psychology and spirituality weekly talks are based on the works by Jan d'angeles and we are here to offer you and me you Jada me and all of you who are here with us a safe space right we're we're proposing a space to confront compare correlate and expand spirituality Concepts from this psychological lens so that we can access insights actionable tips and real world advice to help all of us lead a better life today J and I will talk about social phobias and uh what it takes for us to to come to a new Plateau to understand who we are so that in achieving this new level new Plateau we can leave our old self behind and uh just before we start our conversation just said I would like to recognize the sponsoring organizations uh TV Mel Cino the United States spiritual Federation the international spiritual Council and Ami Brazil and for all of you who are here today please hit subscribe if you haven't already done so and if you want to check more about what we're doing check us out at spiritist us and we welcome all of your questions your uh ideas your Reflections your feedback I would love to to receive that from you but uh you know J um Joanna d'angeles she she's always asking us to look at ourselves right and and even when we're not feeling well when we recognize something that is ah becoming an obstacle for that life of wellbe she says to go ahead choose therapies choose processes activities tools habits that may soften the pressures or even eliminate some of the tensions that we bring in our dayto day but as we're about to talk about sociophobia so sociophobia my goodness I'm really Tong tight this morning this afternoon actually I thought about the 1997 uh As Good As It Gets movie with

r dayto day but as we're about to talk about sociophobia so sociophobia my goodness I'm really Tong tight this morning this afternoon actually I thought about the 1997 uh As Good As It Gets movie with Jack Nicholson and Helen Hunt I don't know if you remember that movie I I I I find it quite interesting because it tells us the story of a misanthropic right bigoted as could be and with a lot of obsessive compulsive uh habits he's a loner uh believe his name is Melvin Udall he's cranky he's sexist he's homophobic he's racist he he Embraces the gimit of all the things that are not good in in somebody that you meet but if you maybe do a double click on the story plot you start to not only encounter several layers of irony right but also some content that is very interesting in our discussion about social phobus just to to to give a little bit of a spoiler alert here those layers of irony are for example how can a hardcore misanthropist can deliver Romance novels right it's just one of those uh uh no it doesn't work but it's there and the other point is that to me very important is how this main character J goes through such a transformation but it is a transformation that is triggered by some discomfort right he he he's no longer in his protective bubble if you will of being a loner of making a lot of money he writes a lot of novels very productive so he has a insulated life from people because of his social phobia and uh basically his life one day to another gets turned upside down his neighbor for example is hospitalized so now he has to take care of a dog and with taking care of something outside of him he starts to heal some somehow right and the second one is I love this the restaurant with the waitress the one waitress that does not bother with this man's aggressive behavior she just lets go she's not there so how can he resolve the issue of being hungry because he cannot get the right waitress to to serve him and with that ultimately he starts to look at himself and it's it's

ust lets go she's not there so how can he resolve the issue of being hungry because he cannot get the right waitress to to serve him and with that ultimately he starts to look at himself and it's it's very interesting because it's not just him right just how she too through their relationship that develops in this movie As Good As It Gets start to look at herself as well but I wanted to to say to all of us because I was um thinking J that uh you know autism it's really uh some of the traits portrayed in this movie it's about autism spectrum right and according to just a little bit of data here according to the Center for Disease Control and prevention the CDC this disorder autism spectrum is the fastest growing developmental disability in the US and it's one of the one disorders that is more talked about than any others in the media etc etc so when we look at this and we look at uh all that's going on that haes I just wanted to just say just what did you hear what did do you do you remember this this movie and what can you share about uh uh having issues that really puts us off kilter and puts obstacles that perhaps our lives would be easier if we didn't have that so first of all hello Mercia hello everyone it's um really great to be here today as well and uh to participate in this conversation in this podcast and I think this uh the subject that we are going to be talking about today it it's really deep because it can lead us to so many different Avenues when we are going to talk about social phobia uh we are referring to the book uh the in integral human being by Jan deangeles and partnership with theala Franco and also like you said the movie As Good As It Gets right with Jack Nicholson and that you can watch nowadays on Prime TV and I I I I think while you were talking about and and about these staggering numbers that we are having in terms of social not social and mental disorders ESP when we are talking about the Spectrum leading to autism I'm was thinking that what a

t and and about these staggering numbers that we are having in terms of social not social and mental disorders ESP when we are talking about the Spectrum leading to autism I'm was thinking that what a great time we are living because uh it this is nothing new according to spiritism we know that we are an immortal spirit and uh that we have been you know reincarnating going through One Life To One experience to another and of course the current one is our best version of ourselves so if now we have some personality traits some mental imbalances imagine how worse it it was in the past right right but I it was not something that you know before um you know officially fraud and others and young uh like we were talking young like we talk here that this was uh actually became something serious and more analyze it more from a scientific perspective that's you where you know we're talking about hysteria and all of this and uh it's hysteria coming from the Greek name that is the uterus the Fe female uterus so I mean and um and it was something that if you had someone in your household that would present any kind of sign of mental disorder this person would be confined either in an institution or in your own home so there was a lot of prejudice a lot of difficulties and nowadays it's out in the open so one thing that is out in the open and that is no longer you know an issue for any of us to have any preconceived ideas mean we are going to take this ser ious and uh we are going to be looking for treatments and now we have so many kind of treatments starting with therapy uh and and and uh and so many different kinds of therapy going to and the pharmacology that helps as well so um I I think that when when we look at a person like he portray in this movie the actor portray in this movie um that presents clearly signs of being OCD germophobe and uh other things the the Prejudice that he had meaning he had a comfort zone where he was thought he was raised in some kind of thoughts that you

that presents clearly signs of being OCD germophobe and uh other things the the Prejudice that he had meaning he had a comfort zone where he was thought he was raised in some kind of thoughts that you know it for someone that is so difficult to adapt that has a difficulty of walking in the sidewalk because of the cracks on the sidewalks imagine to adapt I mean to have all of a sudden a lot of this pieces of the puzzle in his mind he has to conciliate different kinds of love and and treatment and Etc so um not jumping into conclusion and and and and and you know immediately uh labeling him as being a bad person he shows clearly that there was something there because even if there were events that like said before triggered him or or or led him oblig him to open himself up I mean if those things were not in him he wouldn't exactly yeah he wouldn't be wakened if it wasn't there uh but clearly from a a neurode divergent or uh atypical right uh uh a brain type if you talk about uh autism etc etc uh in in in the ADHD uh autism and so on so forth there's so many of those neurod Divergent uh individuals it's important that we understand that uh maybe we may not express the way you're used to right just and I think it's important for us to understand that as we confront ourselves we should confront also those that do not do not uh fall and I I love I don't know if you if you remember I wrote it down Jo uh about the the waitress because she is amazing right she is comforting she relates so we have a a this loner character Jack Nicholson uh and oh by the way both of them actually received Oscars nominations and won in that movie so it's it's interesting right uh to come to a movie that is has a relatively small setting and they're present and they they demonstrate the the complexity of human emotions in in a in a comedy so in any case she is really relatable so as a biosocial animal that she is she she's compassionate she relates to everybody including the crazy guy right she she

of human emotions in in a in a comedy so in any case she is really relatable so as a biosocial animal that she is she she's compassionate she relates to everybody including the crazy guy right she she calls him crazy uh and uh the the guy that nobody could come because of all his quirks but she is able to reach out to him she's able to connect with him even though all of the things the traits that he brings but uh uh the the pl about her just as a to to contextualize she has a very sick child maybe he's what I don't know eight n and since he was six months old he's sick and she goes to the hospital several times a year I'm sorry a week because he gets sick and and he she does not have a a level of uh resolution to how sick he is but at some point he provides right because he's has the means and of course all he wants is somebody serving him food very interesting uh enough it's that simple for her but how difficult it is for him he needs that anchor that person that is there for him and he pays for the doctors and treatments and and in this action of extreme generosity from his part she says later uh let me see I wrote it down here uh after her son is no longer so sick and she tells the character plays her mother what do I do now right uh I no longer have and those are I'm paraphrasing this this stupid Panic thing inside of you all the time without that I just have to start thinking about myself who needs those thoughts and and when I when I saw that I'm like oh this is Joanna deangeles for us this is the invitation that she gives to all of us let us have the courage to look at ourselves even the most normal and well you know uh uh placed from her emotional perspective she is also evading right she's she's uh being distracted but now the distraction is gone do we now have the the courage to look at her ourselves right and and become somebody else than what we felt trapped so I just thought it was very very interesting um um if if you don't mind just that I just wanted to to give

urage to look at her ourselves right and and become somebody else than what we felt trapped so I just thought it was very very interesting um um if if you don't mind just that I just wanted to to give a little bit about uh um the idea of you know if you can understand the the the main topic of our conversation which is soop phobias right and and how important it is for us to understand and how if we don't they can really imprison ourselves right and uh I just if we can get really high level Here We Know Carl Gustav Yung the the Swiss psychotherapist and we're we're we're talking about Yan psychology the majority of the times we talk here but he in the early 20s I think it was 1921 perhaps that he wrote the book about um personality types so the the big broad ones are I'm an extrovert I'm an introvert so in the case of the movie he is an extreme introvert almost shut in and she is the extrovert and uh it's important for us to think about it because our world almost always rewards those who are extroverts right it is it is important us to understand that there's nothing wrong to be introvert to be an introvert it's just a there for us to understand that we as human beings and as have you mentioned uh J uh Immortal spirits that have had many different experiences today I'm experiencing this personality type and because of it how do I deal with the the input outputs in life and from that perspective when we look at the introverted living the life especially in the western society that rewards extroversion it can lead to those social phobias does this make sense J what I'm saying yeah absolutely and this is one thing thatan angelist tells us in this chapter the book you know for us about to make a distinction between par pedological phenomena when we are talking about introverts that of course to be treated medically psychiatrist um medicine uh and those that start reacting in this way like you said because you know according to the classification of Yung um they have

roverts that of course to be treated medically psychiatrist um medicine uh and those that start reacting in this way like you said because you know according to the classification of Yung um they have different personalities and of course since we are sum up of you know what we were in the past and the experiences that we are going through now maybe you know being an extrovert is not in us uh as well or you know the world today Demands a lot from us right uh I mean we we look at social media and it seems that everyone is is doing great is lead is leading you know wonderful lives and U this can contribute for you not to feel adequate to correct frequent uh certain uh environments and you know certain Social Circles I I was even thinking you know uh because I really like to go deep when I I watch a movie and and and not being judgmental um we we have a picture you know um a snapshot of him now adult yeah W it actually but we don't know about his fast there is only one moment in the whole movie like a single phrase that he says that um he used to stay all the time in his room and when he were not in his room his father would be hitting bitting him it's almost like one one liner right and and if you don't pay attention it it goes away yes and I mean from there you can get the whole picture he didn't get to this kind of behavior I mean he was a survival first of all you know because he even could manage to be uh independent he found a way of uh leaving you know earn um his livelihood by by becoming a writer that doesn't require you to to open yourself that much out in the world so I mean we see that there was a lot going on that led him to this kind of behavior and of course there were underlying mental issues his case was not simply that he thought um inadequate uh to living Society but definitely like we were talking before like he he he really had mental issues the he was being treated by a psychiatrist correct he had obsessive compulsive disorder germophobia and uh you know the was

efinitely like we were talking before like he he he really had mental issues the he was being treated by a psychiatrist correct he had obsessive compulsive disorder germophobia and uh you know the was definitely in the Spectrum but um this the behavior of society towards this kind of individuals is Criminal to say the least I agree with you yes because unless you know uh you are in that box that is written you belong if you go a tiny bit of s of it then you are already already labeled as not being adequate to to to be there right yeah you you become somehow marginalized and no longer part of what is normal uh normally accepted behavior and I think it's important for all of us to to talk about it because so many of us are lost in those uh if if not uh anxiety right uh but also so the pathology you know the pathological state of that anxiety that fear that will imprison us for many different reasons so I think it's important for us to understand to to Really develop our sense of uh if we don't have it but to be able to develop compassion right J to to to to look at with high emotional intelligence to all of those who are going through this and and and uh interesting enough and I I'm going to just add a little bit of my personal journey I I work with a company that is a a global organization it's in 60 different countries very diverse very old it's over 125 years in existence and just a year ago it started fully frontal in one of its goals to address mental health and it's beautiful the work that it's doing because it's almost uh every other day there is a an opportunity for you to either do a webinar to do a class to to to do a forum to to to network and you talk about all this and by doing this then you start talking about diversity diversity is not circumscribed to potentially the color of your skin the way you speak or your gender it is much more complex including how I express myself right so I I I find it when you said that we are we are lucky to be living today in a

lly the color of your skin the way you speak or your gender it is much more complex including how I express myself right so I I I find it when you said that we are we are lucky to be living today in a society that is expanding itself so that we can understand and and welcome all of those that perhaps do not fit the mode right I love that and you see Merc One thing that is so amazing and corroborate to what we we are a say you now in terms of you know he became more of a recluse because this is how the world made him be become starting from his home to the point that we started by saying how many prejudices he had in terms of you know being a racist and homophobic and uh and germophobic and OCD and at the end his best friend becomes his neighbor that is a homosexual yes and everything was led this way because he kind of you know started having a relationship develop a a kind of you know relationship with the the friend of his friend that was an africanamerican and he he's he becomes in love infatuated by the waitress that had a son that was constantly coughing for someone that is a germophobe got you cough you me you even talk near me you know with with all that we see could we really say that he was all those things and uh how how serious they could be when we see how uh you know of course we are talking about a movie but how how you know in a short space of time he he he he he changed it all that and I mean not to mention the dog right hated and he he started by throwing the go the dog uh you know in a garbage being and terrible yesing love with the dog right and the dog follows his him with all his faithfulness it's it's so amazing but you see how much we have to pay attention to our actions and I was thinking you know about everyone that is not emotionally mature and I say everyone I'm not going to say that only to children and the the teenagers because you may be you know older and not necessarily be emotionally mature to De with the pressure of social media yes and not to mention as well you

o say that only to children and the the teenagers because you may be you know older and not necessarily be emotionally mature to De with the pressure of social media yes and not to mention as well you know how you know this life that we are having now in social media has pre has uh prevented us to to acquire social skills that's very interesting yes we are losing social skills right because I mean I feel more at easy talking um through texts and um you know I I I can be my PJs I can you know have a I I don't mind if I had a a bad heart day or whatever nobody is watching me um and I mean you you feel more free than to have to you know to adapt to the the conditions of life in society and this is very serious uh we are not uh trying to criticize this tremendous and great Rich opportunity that we have today of talking to the whole world but we are saying we have to pay attention because maybe we do not have like Joanna deangeles says here the pathological illness that makes us you know agoraphobic uh with you know Panic of leaving our homes and all this but we are developing symptoms and making us ill because of the level of anxiety that we are uh being under due to all this things with social media you know uh the way I'm going to pose for a picture has to be the perfect way otherwise people are going to be judging me and uh and of course in real life we all know how we are in real life right and and now I am presenting myself is no longer a Persona in terms of personality but also you know we live within our avatars nowadays yes so we make an avatar of ourselves and I mean this is the features you know know the my corporeal feature that is there in the Avatar and here is the Persona that comes from the way we wanted to present ourselves and which is much easier for us to disguise to mask when we are having you know um Communications through texts than I toi relationships yes yes I and I I I think it's like um what is it 60 % I may be wrong here uh that we lose from a from a

se to mask when we are having you know um Communications through texts than I toi relationships yes yes I and I I I think it's like um what is it 60 % I may be wrong here uh that we lose from a from a uh if I'm talking to you in person versus talking to you over the phone versus now once more re removed by text and this is the the new paradigm it's now no longer just text it's an avatar that I create what is the problem with that there's no problem except like you said number one is the pure occupation that we must have are we creating quote unquote creating a society of individuals that are hiding behind the Persona that is that Avatar right we we're we're moving away from a Persona in terms of um this is this is how I I talk and I act when I am in X situation versus why but now because of exactly uh social media uh I present myself there is a consistency to my what I seem in what I am that it becomes almost a cliff right just saw there is a distance between that person that I come as uh the person who Smiles the person who's good who's beautiful wealthy talented intelligent all the the positive that in our cultural subset we we we see as this is what I need to be to be part of a larger Community to be engaged to be accepted but is it right all of those things what about the things that I'm not necessarily what are the things that I repress that are you know become part of my shadow what about the things that I don't even see myself because of my blind spot and I I'm trying to be something that I I I I need to be accepted so I try to create that picture picture perfect person but I'm not honoring myself right and and again it goes back to life will perhaps give you a neighbor that it goes to a hospital and you need to take care of a dog a dog or that you no longer have your favorite table your favorite waitress at your favorite restaurant and you have to deal with stepping out of that bubble that you created and uh the good news is it's all good right you it's all good it it will

table your favorite waitress at your favorite restaurant and you have to deal with stepping out of that bubble that you created and uh the good news is it's all good right you it's all good it it will lead us to at some point confront with ourselves with the things that we are afraid of and we're trying to hide and uh leading to uh uh potentially a life of U anxiety and fear such as you mentioned before agobia or Panic uh disorder etc etc so I just think it's it's all good it's bad but it's good right the way I see it now for us that are participating for all the listeners is that we have to make a stand uh and uh become responsible for what we are doing in the world especially in relation to others because we are the ones that are contributing uh for persons to feel inadequate to be in certain environments for instance there is a scene in the movie where he he becomes rude because he had this very difficult personality of course and the you know the manager of the the place asked him to leave and and all the other custom customers stand up and applaud and cheer because he was thrown away so this is huge uh and um what are we doing with our do words our behaviors you know how much are we contributing for others uh to feel that they do not belong and how much are we letting off others dictate the way we should be yes yes and this is very serious in this case and um um and I I think Jan deangel says a phrase here that uh relationship with other individuals are in life are essential for us to develop ethical progress because now I have to know how to do it with you respecting you and I don't have to pretend behind a cell phone uh the computer whatever that we are using to text and communicate and I was thinking you know when we are playing video games you have to choose the Avatar what kind of Avatar are you choosing even when you are uh looking at you know Netflix or prime you have to choose an avatar for yourself how are you seeing yourself kind of avatars are you uh

e Avatar what kind of Avatar are you choosing even when you are uh looking at you know Netflix or prime you have to choose an avatar for yourself how are you seeing yourself kind of avatars are you uh choosing to be the ones that you have there at Apple Netflix you know all those uh um streaming services right yes exactly so and I think you know if you we have to take something from this conversation I think this is it um uh we don't we have to leave our comfort zone in inan it's not my problem I have nothing to do with that we have everything to do with it uh each one of us are is a power yes and can dictate behaviors and can um really contribute to elevate or to the downfall of another human being absolutely so let us be more mindful in the sense I think because and and even in terms you mentioned you know compassion um the way we look at ourselves again like I just mentioned uh don't let the world tells you what is good or badge use your judgment use your reason uh hear the voice of your conscience and go with that yeah I I I love what you're saying and I I want to Echo it uh and at the same time um let us reflect upon the complexity of who we are just being you know Immortal Spirits we each one of us have a long road behind us in a long road even longer ahead of us so it it is this Marathon that we're running against ourselves right The More We Run The the better we run it it's becoming We are Becoming better and and I think that's important uh because we we have different weights and we have different uh uh pains uh pain points and we have so much different but we're all children of God we're all brothers and sisters and uh we we look different we speak differently we we we get tongue tied in the middle of our conversation whatever but we we're all meanwhile and I think this is the important thing for all of us to understand from an emotional intelligent perspective we all mean well we can get better because we are in this journey toward progress right J the other

nk this is the important thing for all of us to understand from an emotional intelligent perspective we all mean well we can get better because we are in this journey toward progress right J the other component that I wanted to perh perhaps uh speak today is the fact that uh the the Paradigm right for social media is one the the framework we're talking about technologically speaking is is the one that feeds into group thinking think about it right the more you click the more you click it it is a a joining of the same type of behavior which can lead to her uh Behavior right her mentality and uh and also the creation of those subgroups and clicks that will lead to expel or or remove individuals that look and speak or behave different than what we think is right or wrong and I think this discussion uh today about sociophobia is to understand that sociophobia may be born out of an inter version a tendency from a personality type to be more introverted than extroverted that's all it takes it may also be exacerbated like in the movie for a a a very difficult childhood but it can be further exacerbated by being removed from the click do we need clicks right uh and I think that's what you're saying Jada we need to be aware that the minute we decide not to clap because somebody is being shamefully removed from a Resturant the moment we decide not to do it we are diminishing the power of such an action so we all are uh responsible to change the world if you think about it right we all have a a a a a a a role a responsibility a weight into how we become much more inclusive and open to all of the what is it8 billion different individualities in this planet today what what are your thoughts you think yeah if you if you think about it he's penalized by Society because speaks his mind he tells the truth yes uh he doesn't have social skills and of course we are not saying that we have the permission to go out and just uh say whatever that is going to be hurting people but on the other hand when we

uth yes uh he doesn't have social skills and of course we are not saying that we have the permission to go out and just uh say whatever that is going to be hurting people but on the other hand when we look at him not knowing exactly how to make this distinction because uh you see clearly that uh his in intention was not to hurt the other person just to say you know what he was feeling unfiltered yeah filtered you know and so his sincerity yes is penalized he's becomes a burden yes right I mean it it's so contradictory uh uh when we think about it uh would you like to have a relationship with someone that is truth to their words or someone that you know have all the great social skills but it's completely being fake in your yes right this is what we are choosing Truth uh I mean we make truth Hearts but truth should not hurt there should be a way so he definitely could learn how to filter it how to say in a different way but at the end of the day he was being true yeah and and that's simple as that yeah this is this is this is a movie about uh uh being truthful in in in his case very direct very linear in in in how he reacts uh without perhaps the social polish that many of us create through experience right but uh it should be actually the goal for all of us to be 100% truthful yeah no sub nothing right yeah but uh there is a a line I remember when I first saw this movie back in the 90s late 90s I remember that the one line that uh that he said that became very repeated many times was that uh he the best compliment to her is you make me want to be a better person right and and I think that is the Journey for our inner transformation when I look at myself and whatever it is that's making us want to be a better person it's it's what puts us gives us speed in that uh metaphorical Marathon that we run against ourselves so so I think we need to to perhaps look at it what is it that is making us be a better person and it may be your religion it may be a book it may be your best friend but we should

n against ourselves so so I think we need to to perhaps look at it what is it that is making us be a better person and it may be your religion it may be a book it may be your best friend but we should all look into this what is our moral compass that is going to to provide that direction that guidance for us to indeed become better and the the the issue here zuu is what happens when we get there when we make those Quantum leaps if you will of transformation like you did it's it's it's very hard to see as you said it's fictional uh the story so we don't know if it's even possible for somebody to to to to become such a much better person in what he was in in the spin of a movie in this case the short lifetime uh not lifetime the short period of time that the two of them were dealing with uh the ex the the hospitalization and uh how his neighbor got better but um when we are going through growth what happens to our old self how do we accept and and be kind to the fact that we are growing right when we look at ourselves and we see oh my goodness I'm no longer the person was before in this case of the movie we're just referencing here the movie so I we invite all of you to to watch the movie or re-watch the movie if you will but uh the idea is uh and I don't know if you caught that J when we saw the movie but the psychiatrist when he goes there really panicking right he's panicking and he needs to do some thing and he says you need to break one pattern of behavior right and uh and those are the ironies that we saw earlier he broke one pattern which was to now accept a germophobic accepting a dog and touch a dog and that pattern of behavior led him to care outside of his own self be survive or not but he led him to to move and start caring and and uh also with the woman where he now not only cares that she's available to serve him food but he cares that she's well that her son is well and that shifts him being self-centered to centered in others and I think this is beautiful message to all

ares that she's available to serve him food but he cares that she's well that her son is well and that shifts him being self-centered to centered in others and I think this is beautiful message to all of us and I I think Jonah d'angeles would agree with that right the minute we we start to move away from egocentric everything and start to focusing on being the conduit of well-being for others we are in the right direction that's our moral compass and there is just one final thing that I would like to mention that I think is very important that we have there as well as he explains um he would go to the psychiatrist but he refused treatment and uh he was prescribed medication that he would not take correct all of that leading him to want to become better made him accept that I mean he was dealing with a professional and the professional was recommended him as something that could make him better and uh every day or maybe I'm exaggerated but quite often I I I I thank God for being so merciful to to provide us with uh Medical Treatments that we we we didn't have before yeah in all the fields and of course in in terms of mental illness as well so um when the professional is recommending that and say you can get better right uh and and and and and and and there was something that can make you better why not Embrace that I think the the the worst thing that can happen is when a doctor will come to you and say there's nothing else we can do for you so while there are resources why not to take uh you know to embrace it and in this case you know he was so in such a dismay with life and careless for for himself that even allow the chance to you know uh to try something that could make him better yes so for all of us here today let us want to be better let's us want to be a better person a better version of ourselves this is why we're here right just we're here and I'm going to uh paraphrase Joanna deangel she says that the reason why we're here it's because we're getting prepared to

a better version of ourselves this is why we're here right just we're here and I'm going to uh paraphrase Joanna deangel she says that the reason why we're here it's because we're getting prepared to the infinite happiness that awaits us infinite happiness so if we want to to be happy let us be mindful let us be present let us be welcoming and embrace ourselves and all of those who may not be so well for whatever reason it is but with that Jada I wanted to say goodbye but do you have any final thoughts no I think no the final thought with is with you very good so so with that I just want to say let us let us be here and and mindful of all of us it is a journey of growth and and inner transformation it is a journey that requires us to look at ourselves the and it looks at our circumstances what what is it that is leading us to a state of fear of uh anxiety and potentially from a pathological perspective for a journey where social Fe phobias become Our Lives you have help there there is there are uh pharmacological help there are uh assistance uh in in in terms of therapy and the beauty of of whatever is going to make you feel better by connecting connecting through prayer connecting through meditation connect with self-love but with that I would say thank you Jada for being here and we'll talk again next week bye too bye everyone bye everyone