Ep 95 - Holistic Health - pt 1

hi everyone welcome to the psychology and spirituality a bridge for better life discussion the psychology and spirituality weekly talks are based on the works by Joanna deangeles and uh it's here to offer a safe space to confront compare correlate and expand spirituality concept from a psychological lens bringing insight tips and reor advice to help you and I lead a better life I'm very very happy to be here with Dr naif fona to talk about health and well-being and holistic health and I just wanted to to bring to us you know what is holistic health it it is an approach that recognizes and address the simply put the interconnectedness of the body the mind and the spirit so joah d'angeles through her books and teachers emphasizes that health and well-being are deeply interconnected with h both our physical and spiritual Dimensions right an but uh an as you know as a good friend uh this has been a quite a difficult year personally uh for me and I've been through several professional Transitions and uh you recognize potential burnout and and I know that um a holistic health approach to to burnout specifically would probably look at the interconnectedness of everything in me right in my physical my emotional mental spiritual wellbeing and then would seek to address not the symptoms but the underlying causes of what is such difficult state for many of us in my case an I can see that uh the causes of my burnout were almost I I I always say that I was almost there but they were linked to workplace stress for example I was dealing with excessive workload um a little bit of lack of control right with transitions uh as well as unclear expectations poor work life balance I know I also know that emotionally I was going through exhaustion uh dealing with chronic stress and really feeling overwhelmed and drained all the time and at the same time because of those change I was going through a lot of isolation right feeling perhaps uh that I did not have the support from former colleagues

overwhelmed and drained all the time and at the same time because of those change I was going through a lot of isolation right feeling perhaps uh that I did not have the support from former colleagues co-workers friends and all of it was leading me to to burnout I could also say that uh perhaps there are issues that come to to plain cases uh like that beyond what I went through at least from what I recognized uh that are for example perfectionism right when you you you expect so much of yourselves that you you create a cycle of uh stress and disappointment and more stress or perhaps uh a mismatch of values where uh what we do in our lives be domestic lives or professional lives really clash with personal values right or even poor lifestyle choices but uh wanted to know you you you are really an expert on this subject of health holistic health and uh you know a lot about burnout as well maybe we can talk a little bit about what Jon and the angelist talk about this and perhaps what are some healing mechanism that you may know what are your thoughts well first of all hello everyone it's nice to be back here talking with my good friend Mara yes and as a Psychiatry let's tell everyone a secret Marsha I was kind of um upset with Marsha because of of course I understood that she was heading for um towards a burnout right yeah and so uh let's pay attention uh to each other first of all right and as you said because isolation and thinking that friends cannot uh you know understand you your needs for instance because if we have burnout usually the concept is related um to the way that we are performing at work socially and so on and with this idea that we are not good enough we are not doing you know what people expect from us so I can tell you Mara and everyone that in a medical field for instance uh and the health professionals in general uh they tend to burn out these days uh you know a lot because all this expectation and because usually in my time when I was a student many

ield for instance uh and the health professionals in general uh they tend to burn out these days uh you know a lot because all this expectation and because usually in my time when I was a student many decades ago right um this diagnosis wouldn't even exist as a yeah yeah we never heard of that and life was slower it was pre social media and all this stuff so of course there was this kind of expectation we had imagine in a you know a medical uh student that uh GR in graduation right that we have you have your professor saying well you are going to be responsible for someone's health and uh uh and someone's um ability to overcome an illness even you know maybe the person will die if you are not good enough so can you imagine the stress but of course this always existed in different fields and all but we had all we had time we had time we experienced things in other um yeah I think in other um it's it was some sometimes even deeper than we do today because we don't have time in in these days that we are living to reflect to meditate many times you know to do what we know when with um Rana and Yung and other authors that are are um saying that meditation for instance is very good prayers are very good for our health mental health spiritual health and this is all part of the holistic view that everything is interconnected but we we never talked about that on those days in medical field uh but it was like of of course we had all the stress of studying a lot of being worried with that but we were we were not so worried with with uh what other people besides the professors of course that would grate you or you know of okay you are okay to go on or no you are not okay do the course again and things like that um the the pass and fail that we all have when we are in a college uh we are college students or in a graduation like engineering medicine and other others but the thing is that we had time first of all we didn't have all this uh you know social media didn't exist uh the distractions right the

or in a graduation like engineering medicine and other others but the thing is that we had time first of all we didn't have all this uh you know social media didn't exist uh the distractions right the immense amount of distraction that we have today didn't exist yeah we we had gossip oh that person said that you this and that oh I'm mad at them but you know you would see you would talk uh we would talk talk more with each other and nowadays people uh see in social media things uh they they said okay I'll give likes or dislikes whatever but uh really talk to someone as we are doing and I'm very grateful that we have all this technolog don't misunderstand me but that we can of course be talking to people and uh we can talk with each other here and we are looking at each other you and I and we have all this energy of friendship that I of course people feel it when they and they listen to our podcast and all that that we are uh we have this energy and this feeling uh of uh you know being among friends but at the same time uh we have so much uh stuff you know so much information so much things in the social medias that uh and to see what this person is talking about what uh he or she is doing the you know the Selfies and in that place and I'm feeling great so everybody has to be in that place to feel great and people really believe in that kind of stuff this is all part of the burnout you know because uh I see my colleagues for you are talking about colleagues at work and all this stuff so maybe many times we don't think that when we are really stressed uh some or even in in you know in in a quick communication like uh in a mobile in you know different Medias in the mileo so that we don't site names but um of course but I even if I put an emot you know I'm laughing and hearts and all this stuff many times you are not looking the person in the face so you don't understand exactly what the person is saying and everybody is so upset and so stressed with a lot of information worri yeah that many times

imes you are not looking the person in the face so you don't understand exactly what the person is saying and everybody is so upset and so stressed with a lot of information worri yeah that many times people won't pay attention to you know you're feeling unless you have a friend like unfortunately Marsha has that is a Psychiatry and I said you look a little say you what's going on with you of course but if you don't have many times your friend will not be able because not because he or he or she doesn't like you or um they are not worried about you but because sometimes they're not paying attention because they are their attention is being called you know in other places so when you talked about isolation about expect ations many times we are projecting onto others yeah our own expectations and then sometimes we we have a hard time setting limits because we have to set limits but how am I going to set limits to other to say this is my limit I cannot go further than that because it's not going to be healthy for me I'm not even be able to work as best as I could if I do this or that we can talk to each other even with people that you know our bosses or whatever or people that we work for um and we also with when we are in a team to our colleagues who is best in doing what uh who needs some time but that that's human all about human resources and and and and pausing right just just uh I I love what you said it's the the humanity of Being Human and we're losing that somehow yes because sometimes we are so distracted you know we are so called from the outside world because to pay attention in someone and to have a sympathy and empathy you know to have empathy that oh I have been in hers or uh his shoes uh I have to connect to the person and I have to to try to understand what he or she is feeling right but if I my attention is other uh you know other in other place yeah it's elsewhere of course how am I going to even understand what my colleague my friend my boyfriend girlfriend whatever

eling right but if I my attention is other uh you know other in other place yeah it's elsewhere of course how am I going to even understand what my colleague my friend my boyfriend girlfriend whatever is feeling and um and try to understand her or his point of you so I think this is very important Mara that if we disconnect from ourselves in the first place how are we supposed to be connected with others to realize Point yeah very good point right that's what what I think that it's um this uh you know this diagnosis of burnout and then and we see a lot of people with burnout I think we are lacking time quality time as we say to mothers and fathers you need quality time with your children let's have quality time with ourselves so for instance reading johanna's books for instance that I strongly ad good plog everyone right so when you read one of jna sentence if you read really fast oh I don't understand that yeah you are missing the point because uh what he's calling us is to be with ourselves to read not only with our eyes yeah but to not only with our brains and minds of course but with our hearts yeah so I have been reading Joanna for the past um let's say 20 years more or less yeah and it's always something new yeah and a meaning that it's behind the words and it's different from from year to year month to month because we are expanding our Consciousness and life is um unfolding for us of course of course our egos are perceiving some of this stuff but don't forget that we have have our higher self that it's actually who is in the uh in you know in the in Command Center let's say of our psych right so if the doesn't have time to meditate to listen to the inner voice how am I going to suppose that I can choose in this holistic way considering all aspects of my life right because maybe Mara um I will be uh possessed let's say Yung says that we can be possessed by our complexes right let's say we are always talking about the inner child with the child dis expect ations I have to be loved and to

ill be uh possessed let's say Yung says that we can be possessed by our complexes right let's say we are always talking about the inner child with the child dis expect ations I have to be loved and to be loved I have to be pretty smart what else checklist pretty smart perform nicely and um better than nicely if I can right because then my boss whatever my colleagues will love me and in that moment I'm projecting in my um in my work because I we go to our works every day for instance if we are a team if we are submit uh submitted at some kind of um you know bosses in different levels managers this and that and I see these people this people every day and I talk to them so we we developed a kind of intimacy that it's work you are professional but you're it's what I call sorry it's what I call Professional intimacy which is awesome right but it's still a distant type of intimacy but go ahead yes and and has limits right because but the thing is that our unconscious goes to work with us it's not only the ego and our Consciousness the unconscious accompan us right yeah so uh and our complex too we have a lot of people inside of ourselves a lot of experiences let's say a lot of it's It's a crowded life right now yes yes inside of us so what we have to uh understand is that of course and it's school it's all right I'm but if we know ourselves and if we give ourselves this quality time with our inner family let's say the the different people that um that are sub personalities Yung says that are within our personal unconscious and that are connected to a lot of archetypal issues okay just to just to point this out okay so if all of us go to work right yeah and and I get to work and some and at some point I feel I'm not doing well and I didn't like the work that I did that day and then I start thinking that my colleague is looking looking at me in a different way or trying to compete with me and that my boss didn't like exactly what I produced this that day but actually I haven't looked at their

ing that my colleague is looking looking at me in a different way or trying to compete with me and that my boss didn't like exactly what I produced this that day but actually I haven't looked at their faces and actually in the first place I was not pleased with myself and I have been under pressure of all this that you talked about giving your own example and just to make a point I'm not talking about Marsh I'm talking about General thank you yes just to clarify this is important Point uh so what I'm what's going to happen is that I will relieve let's say an experience from the past with my brothers sisters whatever with my father or mother when they said oh you are a bad boy or a bad girl uh you did that you are not supposed to do or you could have done better and you didn't because you're lazy because uh you don't see haven't all of us at some point or maybe many of us had uh listened to things like that you were lazy you could have taken an A in that exam but you stayed uh reading for instance if we are talking some secrets to everybody that are listening to us because we share experiences as human beings when I was teenager I love to read and usually romances and you know things like that I love to read and then of course I had an exam for in school I had to hide to read forance if my mother who was a very accomplished lady she was a professor a scientist and you know she would think that romance are really silly you are wasting your time and fiction for instance I love science fiction to these days and things like that this is all silly you have to you know study to to take to have A's and whatever especially A's not B's for because that's not cool that's not what you are able to to achieve so what happened if she opened the door and I was you know lying with a wonderful book and reading um you know in my bed and having a lot of fun she would you know say what are you doing don't you have an exam you are going to perform bad badly and this and that for instance just an example so and maybe

u know in my bed and having a lot of fun she would you know say what are you doing don't you have an exam you are going to perform bad badly and this and that for instance just an example so and maybe Mara um we have here synchronicity yeah because just it was not plain it's unscripted everyone but uh when I'm giving you this example I uh just remember just now that I had a dream this night because people that's another secret I used to hate mathematics you know because I love everything that it's written yeah and words and all this stuff but as a very very very nice I love him a poet poet that we have here in my state here Grand that is called Mario Kinton yes and he said um he was my favorite because I connect so much with when he says I hated math the only part that I liked was when there was the equations with the letters because I would think of some sentence night sentence and poems that I could write with those letters but I I love it yeah I couldn't care less the result of the equation so it what I think it's important um okay what happened is that uh so coming back to my dream to this day I I just dreamed that I was in the in the school again and I'm a medical doctor right and I was with friends and all stuff maybe because I W I was talking to a friend uh but also the some parts of of the day come in the dream but um she this colleague from the past she wanted to take okay let's go to to the classroom and I said why do I have to go it's math I don't like and um I'm a medical doctor now I'm a psychiatrist I don't need that anymore yeah it's all in the past I'm a longer a child yes yeah but of this is of course it has a lot of personal issues we in complexes we have to always make this self analysis and be in contact in contact with our inner issues and stuff like that but the thing is that when we are very uh uh very demanded to you know to um to be um the best version of ourselves but in a sense not spiritually but int ually and in our personas so that then I understand that people will

hen we are very uh uh very demanded to you know to um to be um the best version of ourselves but in a sense not spiritually but int ually and in our personas so that then I understand that people will like me and then I understand that I will get a promotion that it's so important to my life even if I go to burnout you know and get sick and develop whatever then I will of course uh be relieving stuff and emotions that are in my complexes so I don't I don't want to to make you guilty but it's a joke of course but maybe I dreamt about that because I was worried that we were going to to record the podcast today my friend but I know she's going to ask me a lot of stuff so that's very important to you understand it doesn't matter our Persona our qualifications our curriculum our titles we all have these experiences of and first of all it's not Marshal for instance in this example of course uh my friend could be a representation of you I'm just you know really making amplifications of the dream uh but of course and even Joanna that it's beautiful being a light teacher that only loves us and wants us to you know to um develop uh to free ourselves of all this U you know difficulty that we still have in our pych but I could project onto her or unto Mara that uh all this pressure to talk cooly and be smart and everyone will like what we are talking and do a good job you know and projecting that and maybe my dream said uh because the self is behind the images of the dream so and the self wants the ego to calm down to pay attention to the inner Dynamics you know to the psych psych Dynamics and he said you are not here to accomplish accomplish anything you are here for instance in our talks to to learn together to exchange ideas to connect to the mentor and try to be uh the best as possible she is not asking us to be perfect uh of course the best uh in let's say channel to what whoever will be watching us um yeah yeah would uh help us to reflect on something as we are being helped by her yes right yes so this is

e perfect uh of course the best uh in let's say channel to what whoever will be watching us um yeah yeah would uh help us to reflect on something as we are being helped by her yes right yes so this is the healing I I would think for the burnout to remember that we are in an experience even if we have to choose something that later on I think well I haven't choose I haven't chosen you know really nicely I was uh afraid of this and that okay it's okay because I can make mistakes and I can learn from my mistakes if I just understand that this where these pressures are coming so for instance mathematics is connected and this is a very big secret but everybody figure out by now with my mother complex because she was yeah yeah so of course the going back to uh to a classroom from you know from from senior or junior or High School of course uh is that maybe the the ego is afraid of not performing so well uh and I'm projecting Jonah can tell us if I'm correct or not in that U great spiritual mother let's say the pressure that I'm feeling myself this is my inner work to do it's not to you know to project in my light teacher let's say if I've chosen her to be my light teacher or even in my friend Marsha that is here with me so this is inner work and when we are afraid and when we are doubting ourselves um of course if we have time quality time then I can meditate I can look at let let's say I'm examining my dream with all of you guys I don't know how many people will be listening but why is this so important because burnout is something inflicted by us on to ourselves on ourselves and uh um in each other when we are asking people oh what's the problem with you why haven't you performed so well as you always do yeah yeah right I and I'm even wondering I I don't know if I'm going too far a you but uh earlier we a couple episodes ago we we talked about Shadow right Shadow work and uh and in the discussion with Shadow work we talked about this um self-destructive mechanism we use in in

a you but uh earlier we a couple episodes ago we we talked about Shadow right Shadow work and uh and in the discussion with Shadow work we talked about this um self-destructive mechanism we use in in in it's very WID spread today especially uh especially in to in the youth right with uh many different things that are self-harming but we as adults we also do this by overworking or some um lack of moderation in in how we drink or party or whatever it doesn't really there's no connotation of this is okay this is good no we we fall prey to to to those types of um self harm because same root cause of of of what we're talking here from a from a holistic health perspective uh all of the things that we repress and we hate about ourselves right so uh burnout no burnout there are some projections into uh like you said your the mother uh figure or or any other aspects that of that really betrays how complex we are don't you think an the complexity of of this emotional self is is is it's so hard it's so much that we we do things to ourselves and we hurt and we cry for help but we are doing this to ourselves which is a paradox I totally agree you know it's been I think in um I think more than 10 years ago if I'm not mistaken well actually maybe in the ' 90s or late or early 21st uh Century 20 years AG go that the World Health Organization uh when um when it described um you know all this complexity and uh well-being and health um talks about um the social the the the physical um mental social aspects of Health involved in health that's right but the spiritual part came only later okay and I don't think it it's actually so official they talked about but it's not yet for all of them that the spiritual aspects of the mention of um human beings are important for globally to evaluate wellbeing and mental health we are getting there it has been uh in the discussion but but I don't think it's quite official okay and um and I think um if we talked about the spiritual part of and I want to bring

nd mental health we are getting there it has been uh in the discussion but but I don't think it's quite official okay and um and I think um if we talked about the spiritual part of and I want to bring that because you you said we are harming ourselves when we are not um looking at ourselves in a from this holistic perspective that that it's that everything inside and outside I would say of us uh is interconnected and is part of our health globally I mean you know like in Body Mind socially and spiritually that that's what Jo and even Yung uh brings to us um but then I would bring one thing that um the spiritist knowledge and Joanna specifically bring to the discussion that um they go deeper than right that because when in the medical field we are able to talk about religiosity and spirituality it's always from the point of view of this lifetime that's right even even when we expand in it to uh uh more than matter but it's still in the confines of one existence right yes uh we can already uh thanks to all the efforts of you know many scientists in the medical field and psychological field and that are bring for Academia all this the research about religiosity and spirituality okay then we are able to talk not so much as we would like and especially the importance of this Dimension uh not only for our site but for our bodies okay that that research are showing in the results and our uh Health to our health health but the thing is Marsha and everyone that of course they won't talk about um you know the possibility that we bring stuff issues from our uh past lives right because this is we are getting there also because there are a lot of uh studies and good research uh being done in this field but Joanna and here we can talk because we are here to expand our Consciousness and to bridge spirituality and psychology yeah Janna says and now I quote her people become what they think look at how important to pay attention or on how we are thinking about ourselves and others what they

idge spirituality and psychology yeah Janna says and now I quote her people become what they think look at how important to pay attention or on how we are thinking about ourselves and others what they nourish mentally and and work on until it becomes ingrained yeah so it it's you know it's stuck it gets stuck with us the way that we understand ourselves and others in a psychological uh manner unfortunately Su says most people cherish you were talking about the shadow cherish only negative ideas pessimism and malaz yeah as a result they weaken their moral resistance and I think this has to do is a result of burnout right to weaken our moral resistance we debilitate they debilitate their spiritual qualities and fit off their own delusions yeah yeah and then she goes on there are some trials that are inevitable because they proceed from excesses in previous lifetimes nevertheless through uplifting mental and Humane constructions they may be changed mitigated and even released because healthy acts acts Garner Merit for overcoming harmful ones so she's in a very simple way it's simple but it's very complex very deep she is uh telling us that first of all we become what we think and what we think she has written in other um parts of her um her Works what is what we think is charged with emotions and feelings right so uh it's like we we start leing that reality the way that we think about ourselves and this like contaminates yeah all different parts of our daily life don't you think so and it's like a little bit of toxicity right removing or uh um attacking I don't know if that's the best word but uh really damaging our sense of balance which leads to health and well-being so those toxins or toxicity is can can really be everywhere including our minds right uh how we see life our uh I don't know jealousy or uh I I I'm I feel that you hurt me you figurative speaking right so uh you you upset me you hurt me so my reaction to that is I don't know uh bitterness or even revenge or in even sorrow um so

ousy or uh I I I'm I feel that you hurt me you figurative speaking right so uh you you upset me you hurt me so my reaction to that is I don't know uh bitterness or even revenge or in even sorrow um so that that uh that's all of those things that I'm feeling become toxins and and really lead to a state of illness right yes of course uh I was listening to you and two things one is that what you said is exactly the answer for um that statement that you did why do we hurt ourselves so much with alcohol abuse of alcohol drugs and this and that if we are so happy if that would you know be so cool for our mental health for instance I wouldn't be addicted to that you know to a chemical stuff in my body and I would be able to to give this feeling of Joy let's say to myself you know uh a good music with a talk with friends and family with hugging yeah and with laughing together why do I need a chemical why do I need a lot of alcohol for instance to be able to do that if I need something outside from my capacity my ability that's a challenge for young people yeah to trust in themselves that they they are funny they are cool they are smart they have their Inner Light yeah and they can have a great time just being what they are yeah so all of you know this environment that is contaminated by the collective shadow that is the this environment uh mentally and speaking not of nature of course but it's uh telling us all the time in the collective unconscious we are of of course we share our experiences as you say in the collective part of our unconscious that we are not good enough we are not funny enough we are not pretty enough we are not smart enough we are not cool enough so if we lack so many things of course to we are going to struggle you know like crazy and of course probably a lot of people because Jan is saying we we start having um you know affecting our moral ability moral resistance it comes to my mind resilience we talk a lot psychiat field about resilience and you know if I

people because Jan is saying we we start having um you know affecting our moral ability moral resistance it comes to my mind resilience we talk a lot psychiat field about resilience and you know if I believe that I'm not good enough that I have to go to a party and drink all night long and use different drugs and this and that and of course listen to bad music I'm so sorry I'm from another another time but oh my goodness some music that people young people are listening and there are studies about that you can only listen if you have chemicals in your body wow because they are made to to tune into chemicals the effects that the chemicals have in the brain you can talk about that in another conversation yeah i' love to yeah yeah because teenagers you know they they they are so insecure and it's it's okay because it's a uh in the life um cycle uh so this part of our Lives it's very challenging because I'm not a child anymore correct but I'm not an adult yet so I am in the middle of things and I sometimes I feel like when I was a child uh and sometimes I think as the adult that I'm becoming because I can understand wow what this adult person is telling me it's not making sense because he or she is not acting according to what she expectations or the expectations right uh social expectations or whatever the the demands of that external world or the external cultural norms Etc ET Etc and uh and when we we don't meet those We are failing in a way right yes so if we understand that we are even if we for instance people that are listening to us don't believe in reincarnation it doesn't matter if the person believes that she or he has a higher Consciousness that uh doesn't matter from where we come but we are evolving and we are spirits living in a m material body and having a psych a soul here right uh and having all this um that that we are talking about and if the person believes that we are brothers and sisters and then we are part of the same source that yeah um is part of us

soul here right uh and having all this um that that we are talking about and if the person believes that we are brothers and sisters and then we are part of the same source that yeah um is part of us also and that is the source that creates light love and life right it if the person believes in that it's good enough because it the person will understand what Jonah says when she says that from whenever whenever and uh we are we have been before as Spirits evolving we bring with us experiences and learnings and some things that we haven't yet learned so of course we are going to have to leave uh new experiences or relieve some experiences to learn better that's good I think enough and uh of course we are going to make mistakes and we are expected to make mistakes but we if we can be authentic with ourselves if we can be in contact with what we really are deep inside what we observe in ourselves then it's all going to be I can even learn math I can even tell in my dream that I don't have to go because I have overcome that and I understand that it's a a symbol of the yes I love it experience of my mother not my mom that I love by the way but it's the my inner child and the experience that I had when she didn't pay attention to me because she was in the math lab studying math as a professor I love it I love it yes it's it's it's circular right uh uh she was doing something which is awesome but there are some repercussions to you and today the adult um anayi projects all that she saw into in this case meth classes and all the resistance etc etc so folks this is not easy to connect but it's unfortunately all connected right and we are at time and this is such a great conversation and I want to say thank you and for all of us who are here wanted to leave with a few highlights um regarding um some holistic uh Health healing mechanism is that okay because we all want to be healthy right so some of the things that uh exist that we can all do is number one is self-care self-care practice so let us all

stic uh Health healing mechanism is that okay because we all want to be healthy right so some of the things that uh exist that we can all do is number one is self-care self-care practice so let us all prioritize our physical health and we can do this simply with regular exercise um meals that are nutritious they nourish our body uh enough hours to sleep right and even some self-care rituals um we talked about a few here here with meditation it can be prayer it can be mindfulness or even yoga all of those can help us in the self-care um I I mentioned already mindfulness but in meditation but those types of practices they will help us reduce stress so if you like me are struggling with the potential burnout this is awesome so let us deal with this mechanism and it's free it's free you don't need to pay anything just meditate or learn to meditate or or engage in mindfulness to to help address stress stressful situation as well as uh the ability to learn how to improve our own uh emotional self-regulation right the calmness and even uh being present in the moment where everything is chaos otherwise but you are the center of that that is peaceful and calm another another mechanism is is emotional support and I think you mentioned that already anay right let's all learn to seek learn to uh stablish uh a a uh social network that you can seek support they can be your friends family members therapists they all can be vital in helping us deal with our feelings and our stress uh for some um there is group therapy um support group they all are helpful for us uh one that uh I guess I don't know how to do well never been able to but work life balance right let us learn to and and and be disciplined about establishing boundaries around work and personal life right and in an age that more and more people are working at home working remotely that is really tricky you get up in the morning you have breakfast and boom you're right there uh in your home office working and it may be sometimes 1100 p.m. and you're still

t home working remotely that is really tricky you get up in the morning you have breakfast and boom you're right there uh in your home office working and it may be sometimes 1100 p.m. and you're still there and yes I'm talking about about a part of me that has done that a lot but it's a part of me that is no longer cool with that right so let's let's start to to even think about uh what are the boundaries of what you need to to do what are your work hours um are we taking regular breaks are you making time to relax to I don't know have a hobby have a conversation have that Teta right that face tace um uh moments of uh professional or personal moments of intimacy and by that we don't mean sex we just mean that eye to eye that being a person close to the other uh we can also I believe think about reassessing oh what are goals right is it to become so wealthy that I have to work day and night or is it to be wealthy y enough to to to meet our uh basic needs right so let's look at our personal values our goals and realign them with our lives um see what truly matters and it may mean and I know a lot of uh uh of the younger generation people that I know are making very specific changes in their career their career care paths or even their work environment so they can achieve a well balanced life I'm almost finish I'm thinking here that having creative outlets right uh in invite um not only um creative activ activities but also be around art you mentioned earlier that uh that you know seeking for art and and things that make you feel good in a museum or creative writing or music all of those things are quite therapeutical um nature is also healing right it it uh there's research that talks about this significant boost in mental health and stress reduction just by being outside in nature uh hiking or walking or just being around uh surrounded by nature and of course professional help seek mental health professionals because they can help with um manage for example burnout uh but in addition to that I

king or just being around uh surrounded by nature and of course professional help seek mental health professionals because they can help with um manage for example burnout uh but in addition to that I just wanted to say those two things because uh they're part of what uh it's important for our uh program is spiritual practices right to explore um our uh foundational spiritual practices or philosophies that can provide us with a sense of purpose a sense of connection right and and ultimately help us create or Foster uh augment our resilience with the issues that we go through and final final it's all about gratitude um a lot of individuals are prescribing and or doing gratitude Journal right let us reflect let us reflect on the positive aspects of life because just by doing a a a a click a change in our um mental framework we can start to lose the stressors so anyway can I add one more ABS list yes uh just to show because then Mara can put in the this beautiful book times of health and Consciousness by janelis and read inspiring books especially Joanna and reflect upon them because they connected to the sacred and just to tell goodbye to everyone I just want to read one sentence by Joanna here that it's so beautiful in she starts each chapter with it's like a poem you know and she says in this just to fin to finalize the Divine reality awakens me so that I may know myself thus discovering an identifying myself my quest is no longer clothed in illusion but in the certainty of my next encounter with reality I am what I am on my way way to being an ideal person oh I love it thank you thank you for reading that I I think it's it's it's awesome um but for those of you who perhaps is coming to us for the first time uh we are here in our weekly talks yes every week we come back uh with the psychology and spirituality um and this episodes are based on the works by Joanna Angeles so this is just a an invite for all of us to be able to expand our own spirituality Concepts and uh you know

e psychology and spirituality um and this episodes are based on the works by Joanna Angeles so this is just a an invite for all of us to be able to expand our own spirituality Concepts and uh you know just juxtaposing them with this psychological lens that we're talking about and before we go I want to say thank you thank you our sponsors man Cino United States Spirits Federation the international Spirits Council and Amy Brazil the Brazilian arm of the medical spiritist association hope you are back with us next time and but thank you thank you so much naive for being here with me and talking about holistic health thanks everyone byebye thank you