Ep 104 - Going Back Home: the Parable of the Prodigal Son

hi everyone welcome to the psychology and spirituality a bridge to Better Life discussion haay thank you for being here with me today for those of you who are here this is our weekly episode um and today we're going to explore like usually we explore the intersection of spirituality in Psychology and as a result we kind of become recipients of Timeless wisdom containing both spirituality and psychology my name I'm your host my name is Marcia trano and I'm super super excited to have Dr naif with me today we are going to attempt uh an to dive deeply into what I consider when the most powerful Parables ever told we're going to talk about the parable of the prodigal son and just to give a little bit of a teaser on the subject it's important to understand and I'm going to go ahead and do a little bit of a synopsis but it's it's important to understand the on the surface this Parable is a story of forgiveness it's quite strong story of forgiveness Redemption right and if I may say the boundless uh love of a father but if and that's why I want to here with me if we go a little bit beneath the surface there's this Rich tapestry of spiritual and psychological themes that really speak of our Human Condition So today we're going to be looking at this Parable not just from a which is Parables are for right and a from a moral lesson but as a quite impactful profound metaphor for this journey of self-awareness and emotional healing so through the lens of psychology an this is on you we explore the contrasting figures of the two brothers the prodal son whose return May symbolize transformation right through humility and self-reflection and as it is counterposed to the Elder son who we're going to probably talk a little bit about the internal struggles and how they reveal the painful grip of our ego as it is expressed by jealousy and even unresolved issues like bitterness Etc so as we can see the story and I'm I'm going ahead of the game here so hang on the story is really more about this tale

go as it is expressed by jealousy and even unresolved issues like bitterness Etc so as we can see the story and I'm I'm going ahead of the game here so hang on the story is really more about this tale of to to people to men to Sons it is really about all of us about me about you all of us here all of humanity because it's about the conflict within our own psyche it is about the battle between our higher self and our ego and all the challenges that we face when we confront our shadow within and decide to embrace perhaps healing and integration right so today this is my plan is we're g to try to unfold those layers of H this relatively short narrative it's one of the longest Parables so I'm going to uh give maybe and I if you mind you don't mind me I give a shortened version right right but if we can go into the layers of this narrative to to maybe reflect on questions of self uh which is if you haven't been with us before self here will be equals uh the deeper Divine the sacred Essence within us the spirit right and how the self can be awakened through those moments right those moments in this case uh can be expressed through suffering self-doubt or even jealousy in this case so let's talk about the older brothers uh this is my invitation to you and I to talk about the older brother's resentment right toward the the younger brother and how that interplay shows perhaps the inner resistance that all of us feel when confronted with change um the idea that we can forgive the idea even of unconditional love so settle in join us as we Embark in this journey of introspection and spiritual Discovery through the lessons that we learned from the parable the prodal son so an let's go ahead and get started with a very short synop if you don't mind so for everybody here uh that is already tired of listening to me instead of uh hang on uh what is the parable if you never heard of it here it goes you can find it in Luke chapter 15 verses 11-32 and it's in fact one of the most wellknown teachings by Jesus for the

instead of uh hang on uh what is the parable if you never heard of it here it goes you can find it in Luke chapter 15 verses 11-32 and it's in fact one of the most wellknown teachings by Jesus for the theme that I mentioned earlier forgiveness repentance and Unforgiven unconditional love I'm tongue tie today so the parable begins and I can hear my mind's the drum roll yes it begins with a father who has two children two sons a younger and older son the younger son comes to the father and ask for his share of inheritance so parenthesis and I'm going just going to do a spoil alert here this is in the context of the time right and is quite unusual quite disrespectful and it's almost like a death wish from the younger son father you're too old I should have already received my inheritance give me now instead of later and despite this of course in the story the father grees and he divides his wealth he was a wealthy man between the two sons and gives to the younger son his part his half so what happens to his younger to this younger son he leaves home and he travels to a distant country I love it and unfortunately you know if you're not prepared what you do with money a lot of money he loses it all he wastes he he he goes on into a life of and I'm going to use a modern word like partying like there's There's No Tomorrow this wild living and he gets lots and lots of friends of course those are friends of the money not of the person so uh he he goes on and after a while there is a femine that strikes the land and uh this son the younger son now finds himself with no more money he did not have the ability to actually sustain the fortune right and he has nothing left including all of those uh quasi friends right not even quasi no friends at all just users and so he says what to do well I need to to to work to sustain myself he does take a job and his job is simply feeding pigs and he's so hungry and he thinks to himself right here he is even those um pods those you know things that he would feed the the pigs

stain myself he does take a job and his job is simply feeding pigs and he's so hungry and he thinks to himself right here he is even those um pods those you know things that he would feed the the pigs that he would really love to have the same and he doesn't and he's like oh my goodness this is I'm so miserable right now that uh I'm worse off than my father's servants they those who are not children but who work for this man they have plenty of food a bed to to to to lay at night Etc so he comes to this decision to return home and ask for forgiveness which is a hard right just that it's it's quite hard when you make a big mistake a big blunder how do I even have the courage to deal with my guilt and to ask for forgiveness but he does and he plans right uh in his plans is that uh father I I sinned against both you and both God and I'm no longer worthy to be called your son and his Hope was by doing that that he would be treated as one of his higher servants well time goes by he comes back and the father before the son even comes close to the to his land the father sees him he was waiting for him and he he gets really filled with love and compassion and he runs to his son he Embraces him he orders his servants his the people that work for him to prepare a feast to honor his son and he declares that that son who was lost has now be found and uh it's quite beautiful that the father's actions symbolize um Joy Grace forgiveness welcoming right and he shows that no matter how much one ears we have always a home to come back to as any any thrilling story there's a conflict yet another conflict right uh the Elder son is there and he had decided to stay with his father to work alongside he was very diligent and when he hears that his son his brother I'm sorry uh comes home he is so angry and he's like and Beyond welcoming him back he who betrayed you father you are actually throwing a party to him so he just refuses to celebrate and uh his father understanding that uh the older

angry and he's like and Beyond welcoming him back he who betrayed you father you are actually throwing a party to him so he just refuses to celebrate and uh his father understanding that uh the older son was refusing to even be part of the the party he goes back back to see to talk to him to see him and uh he says that uh he was unhappy because he was unjustly that's a key word here right unjustly overlooked despite the fact that his whole life he was was faithful toward him and the father responds which is quite interesting that uh right with love with understanding as well that uh uh he you know he had everything the older brother and uh it it would also on one hand uh write to celebrate the return of the younger brother because he was indeed lost and he had now being found so it's a reason to celebrate so to me as we come to the end of the parable right the father uh says that uh forgiveness right right forgiveness is important and it's especially important like the father Our Father um when we repent we are you know we are accepted despite our mistakes and we should be deserving to be feel to be feeling uh accepted and uh and really it it's to me this this Parable this tale of just Grace in allowing the younger son to leave the grace of allowing the son to come back and even the grace to talk to the older son's jealousy right right in resentment with also Grace to say it's okay for you to feel way but all that is mine is yours did I did I share everything did I miss anything I'm sure I missed some things so anyways I'm now going to bring back to you and perhaps um anay let's go ahead and start with the idea first and foremost of why why speaking in Parables and why are we even talking about Parables and to begin with right why are we uh it's so important to understand what Parable means so that we can dive deeper into the meaning of the story wow so first of all hi everyone great to be here with my good friend Maria and to be here with all of you that are listening to us so first of all

that we can dive deeper into the meaning of the story wow so first of all hi everyone great to be here with my good friend Maria and to be here with all of you that are listening to us so first of all I think it's uh very up to dat okay and it's amazing because it's a parable um from more than 2,000 years ago yeah right and uh something that we are missing nowadays Mara is that um everything is so quick so fast that the context of what we are talking about even with each other you know even uh among friends and family we missed the context because everything is so quick I had have to say something in the WhatsApp or you know I have to to be really fast because people are waiting for my answer for instance and other that I lose the context so I think it's very important for us let's invite everyone with this beautiful summary that Marca has done bring to uh brought to us uh so let's um make a journey together to the Past 2,000 years ago okay so um Jesus was from a very small village I don't know who had the privilege I'm very grateful that I was able to go up to galileia uh in 2018 I think oh wow and path by the Sea of Galilee in all the small villages and um kafern I think it's the name where Jesus meets Peter and all this stuff so um it's very powerful surroundings it's the nature it's um present in everything uh it's humble in a sense that doesn't have you know big buildings or this and that but the spiritual energy is there and it's very very strong because we know that all these messages uh uh they talk to us from a a light uh teacher that we understand that it's the highest spirit that has been here uh to um teach us the path towards the light and God again and uh in this Journey that it's not out from outside it's from the inside um so the energy is that because it's out of space and time doesn't matter how you know how much fight or this and that uh because of ignorance uh humankind does when something really strong a spiritual energy descends let's it or emerge here on Earth and inside us

't matter how you know how much fight or this and that uh because of ignorance uh humankind does when something really strong a spiritual energy descends let's it or emerge here on Earth and inside us and outside us uh it cannot be erased this is the first thing that I would I wanted to exchange so when Marsha is telling us again about the parable and we have we are here uh representing humbly as as much as we can the thoughts and reflections of our light teacher Jan jangel yes through the psychograph of Dev per fr so the the spiritual energy that is within the Parables uh it it will always be there it's Eternal because it's bringing something a knowledge and uh a sparkle that it's very strong it's not because a Spargo that it's not there is from uh from the light that it's the Creator of everything so it doesn't matter how you know how much mess we do here humankind uh the energy is there and when we connect we can uh feel it so I will invite everyone to make this journey with Marsha and I now at this moment to try to understand with Joanna uh the words of Jesus so why was he talking in Parables so when we go to the atmology of the word uh Parable right uh it we know that it's from the Greek and I'm sorry people that talk in Greek that you know I don't know if I I will pronunciate all right but it's par in Greek that it means could be translated to comparison but if you break the world parah or para would mean beside right yeah uh and um Bain paring so it would mean to cast to throw beside so we could I I love to try to understand the history and the psycholog that it's behind the words I love words by the way so uh we know that something so why Jesus uh was talking uh through Parables right because they are archetypal stories they are part of our uh Collective unconscious the transpersonal dimension of the unconscious that we all share as human kind so they are archetypes ancient forms stories patterns of behavior okay that we bring from our ancestors right and we can talk a lot

ersonal dimension of the unconscious that we all share as human kind so they are archetypes ancient forms stories patterns of behavior okay that we bring from our ancestors right and we can talk a lot just about this right uh the the the difference or between the um Collective unconscious and how in this Collective uh I call it a soup uh in my mind right the soup of all the knowledge that exists yeah but it's great soup I like that right yeah this the soup this this immense uh um content that we all have access even though we don't know that we have access to it but from that and I think it's important that you brought the idea of archetypes um and I know this is going to sound a little academic but that's how I think a little bit more linear here but there are two things right in in this this soup we find something that we all know about which is instincts right those instincts that drive animals plants and yes us humans in things that we don't think about it we don't think to Blink an eye we don't think uh to be a heart you know etc etc but then there's also this archetypes that is really amazing that you brought it up because with the the parable format then we access through 200000 years ago archetypical dimensions of a a a an image or or thought or concept that otherwise we would not really stop to think about it right so it's very intentionally uh you you you you you bring it up and I'm I'm making a movement here of just forking something out of the soup right I'm picking it up and showing hey look at this you find this archetype in this Parable but go ahead yeah because uh that's very important what you said because the archetypes are much more than uh just instincts right because instincts is something like we We join uh we connect to something biological for instance we have in our DNA we have it's the way that we survive that we react to things that it's ingrain in our you know biology right and that is going to emerge because we need to survive and we need to deal with our

our DNA we have it's the way that we survive that we react to things that it's ingrain in our you know biology right and that is going to emerge because we need to survive and we need to deal with our environment um and it's we could think that it's included but the archetypes I like the way I think Yung said the archetypes as being like um footsteps of God within the psych you know because it's it's they are they they are all the symbols the images the stories the patterns that as you said Mar emerge from the depths of the unconscious uh not only of course uh through the personal unconscious but um when we are talk about individuals but they are in our Collective unconscious so all the things that um and experiences uh that uh in terms of patterns of behavior of understanding Perce receiving and acting in the world um we that our ancestors and if we are talking of course uh through Joan's Lance uh bringing together spir is knowledge we many times have been our own ancestors right reincarnated we could say so it doesn't matter which dimension we are talking we are talking about Consciousness here as humankind as a big um family that is reincarnating to experience and learn through experience right and evolving Consciousness and sharing this learning process together we learn with each other right because when we talk about the archetype in this parable of the Father the brother right the son so and the father that it's um let's see if we have time to um to talk about rbr's uh thing oh yeah I'd love that uhuh but you know uh this father that is represented in the parable it's not only the male father I mean you know the the father uh of course Jesus was using the father and the son Sons um and the brothers because 2,000 and more years ago in that part of the world the eastern part of the world uh it was very male let's say right yeah yeah very masculine and um of course he needed to talk about this um as you said uh giving some spoilers to people of development in this in integration of

rld uh it was very male let's say right yeah yeah very masculine and um of course he needed to talk about this um as you said uh giving some spoilers to people of development in this in integration of different aspects of our s sorry so so so just to to uh unpack a little bit because it was um I was a bit confused right so what we're talking here or what you are going to talk here perhaps is uh different types of relationships right so the the father archetype the son archetype and the brother archetype right so there three different uh archetype and of course uh you don't see a mother archetype here because we're talking about a very patriarchical type of society that Jesus was living in 2,000 years ago yeah but he was so Mar he was so higher spiritually speaking that he knew that and he wanted to of course um like awaken our higher self yun's self capital S right yeah yeah so he was not talking to Theo of you know that primitive uh people he was talking to thousand and more years ago he was talking uh to actually he was trying to awaken people's self and see how interesting the Strate strategic why he used Parables because he was talking stories with moral uh and psychological issues inside the stories to um like we are saying Parable to beside throwing uh aspects of our psych that we needed to pay attention to develop to evolve to the side so the side means for me that it's it he was not talking to that those people's egos because they ego were very primitive they they didn't know anything about psycholog about how we work about having a collective unconscious because this is a fraternity yes otherwise they wouldn't have slaves they wouldn't have wars and stuff like that right so he was talking to people's higher self today as you said there higher Consciousness that is evolving through different reincarnations that would be reflecting upon uh the moral spiritual and psychological aspects of those stories so not only in that highly symbolic right sorry to interrupt you

olving through different reincarnations that would be reflecting upon uh the moral spiritual and psychological aspects of those stories so not only in that highly symbolic right sorry to interrupt you but highly symbolic and and how do you know highly symbolic because uh this story Let's Pretend let's pretend I am Jesus and you look and you're writing the story I'm narrating right so I'm going to talk hey Luke I'm going to talk about the story about this father and two sons and one wants to to take the ha I've been silly here um and I and then Luke says okay are you going to ask me to write a legal right a legal narrative about what does the son need to do in order to get his um inheritance no it's not prescriptive um uh storytelling it's really a symbolic the we we need to access uh those stories from a very very symbolic uh perspective right yes and what I want people to understand is that the father uh Jesus need needed to use this masculine characters right correct so that uh the archetypes that he was trying to um like to awaken and to make us reflect upon and to develop Yeah in our deep in our PES through different and generations to the Future so we are talking about that two more than 2,000 years later and try to understand imagine that right to better understand to go deeper in the psychological uh aspect and spiritual aspects with the help of Jon jeles so uh what we need to understand is that the Father Figure yeah and rembrand in his beautiful painting of The Prodigal Son uh has picture spoiler alert picture the the drawn the the father as the Creator in a sense the father and mother I have it yeah I have it with me do you want me to show not yet not yet all right all right people you know really curious about so so ramb Brun right ramb Brun 17th century uh does this beautiful beautiful Masterpiece uh it is considered right uh an a one of his best work and he did at the end of his life but uh if we don't get to to show today make sure you Google rbrand the prodal sun because it

tiful Masterpiece uh it is considered right uh an a one of his best work and he did at the end of his life but uh if we don't get to to show today make sure you Google rbrand the prodal sun because it will be a feast to the eye go ahead so uh it is very important that people understand that the father is a character but the father is acting with a balance uh in terms of the feminine and masculine for forces of the spirit we are not talking about gender we are not talking about you know uh the father and the mother only archetypes we are talking about uh we could we as you said in the beginning Mara uh deeper U when we talk about archetypes we are talking about uh the the dimension of our psych where we are one so the archetype uh primordial archetype is the god image that unifies everything it's not God uh but it's the image that we uh have the understanding of the Ultimate Reality the unity that is God the all loving compassionate creator of everything and of ourselves I'm sorry I have the air conditioning here bra is very hot so what is important to understand is that when uh we are talking and Jesus was trying to awaken and make us better understand this Unity yeah that we all have within ourselves that as individuals we call the self our higher Consciousness but that it's this higher Consciousness is in inter connect it with all of our brothers and sisters higher Consciousness forming a big or huge family and uh one Consciousness also of our of us as brothers and sisters as humankind so he was trying to teach us this way back to the unity to God in psychological and spiritual terms so what is understanding it's important to understand is that the Father the character father in this story this beautiful beautiful story uh is representing the balance between this forces of the spirit the masculine and feminine that we are going to see in some minutes in the beautiful painting by R brand and what it's important then Mar and everyone is that the Suns represent um fragments let's say complex

uline and feminine that we are going to see in some minutes in the beautiful painting by R brand and what it's important then Mar and everyone is that the Suns represent um fragments let's say complex different aspects of the ego that it's of course the ego has the the task to do to adapt to this uh reality that it's bipolar as Jonna says that has good and evil good and bad light and dark and all this Duality that we live here so that it can learn can help the self our higher self to learn this experience so when we dissociate we have different aspects that represent for instance a shadow within ourselves a shadow just um to remind everyone are aspects that the ego doesn't like uh feels threatened by and once repress or deny and um just send let's say to the unconscious right can I can I say something real quick go ahead go ahead no it's silly but that's how I I start to Define right the shadow is um if you thinking of a group uh that's working together right and we have an agenda for the work and that's the self this is the the the well actually the ego there's this agenda the the mission of what we want to do in this group and then the shadow is someone coming in bringing their own personal agenda that has nothing to do with the mission of that work group that's for example that's a completely crazy example but uh with NASA with the mission to to send a men back to space and back that's a lot of people together that's the ego right to building that mission and all that we had to do to get to the back to the moon and and back right to space and back but then there is one engineer that's the the shadow that wants to do something else they want to whatever and so the ego goes like no let me fire that engineer because he or she is not uh in in line with our mission so it hides away in this case of the Shadow and that's the proverbial uh sweeping under the rug I don't want to see that so because I don't have time I don't it goes against our mission so let's stay to the core of

ay in this case of the Shadow and that's the proverbial uh sweeping under the rug I don't want to see that so because I don't have time I don't it goes against our mission so let's stay to the core of the ego's mission that's my interpretation of of the Shadow yeah but it's nice it's great because you see to accomplish something that is really high in terms of moral and spiritual values and psychological maturity for instance we have the ego has to be humble and has to uh listen to the higher self okay uh because remember our higher self as you said in the beginning represents uh to the psych the unity of the psych right um of our SES when we are talking individually and um it is behind all of our development spiritually and psychologically and in this life it is behind the learning that that uh it has you know proposed itself to do so it needs the ego to pay attention to the message uh that it's coming through dreams synchronicities images fantasies uh symbols as you said because the self our higher selves are is always trying to call the ego uh to pay attention because it needs the ego to live this experience but the ego has to submit itself to the knowledge uh that is much uh U uh bigger that of the self so for instance we were talking about dissociation and um conflict of the brothers the sons that you have summarized beautifully um the selfishness of the prodigal son you know ambition uh like the instincts that he wanted to you know go party let's go party let's go to life his selfishness of paying no attention to his elderly father and to the respect that he needed to have to the father to the partnership with the brother because the inheritance was uh theirs right yeah yeah family because 2,000 uh years ago in the eastern part of the world um the family was a structure that it was very closed and it's very was very important in the so the business the money or the land actually everything depended on dependent on the land and it could have broken right it could have so so putting

ry closed and it's very was very important in the so the business the money or the land actually everything depended on dependent on the land and it could have broken right it could have so so putting this to Modern time uh if I am two children of the mother and the father and the inheritance was one house one building and I say I want half uh the father would most likely have to uh liquidate the assets right to give half so let's say just fictitious here the house C uh the the asset was worth a million dollars the father would have to sell the house to give 500 thousand to the son and what happens to the structure by which the father and the Elder son would live would had to move completely based on the younger brother uh the younger son desire to to go out in the world right if I may say something else um that comes to my mind I don't know if you're going to talk about it or not an but what so I find it interesting that this story uh it's it's clear to see the jealousy of the brother right the older brother when he comes back but from the the younger and the father accepting his challenge disruptive as it was right um but the father accepts acases to the son desire and to me this is the same and I I may just share a little bit about me but oh my goodness I'm going back to when I'm like you know 16 177 years old and I want to be an artist anay I wanted to be a painter so what does my wonderful wonderful father say to me no you got to be kidding me you're going to be a starving artist no I will not allow you to be an artist so back and forth back and forth back and forth we negotiate and he says why don't you become an architect architecture will give you means to work you're also an artist well I did I became an architect and never practiced it so that that rupture that Rebellion against the the the context by of my family um I did not disrupt but I did in the end by my personal choices so I think it's very interesting to see that like the young son who disrupted and and

llion against the the the context by of my family um I did not disrupt but I did in the end by my personal choices so I think it's very interesting to see that like the young son who disrupted and and actually left the land and potentially we don't seen the story but it could have had catastrophic impact to the family structure the father in the elderly son right but it demonstrates maybe in my mind's eye here the need for all of us parents to hear to listen and to allow our children to explore their own independent desires what are your thoughts yes I think that's very important Martha um but uh that is in the individual Dynamic of each family and each individual right so yes the the the behavior of the prodigal son was in a sense we could say very authentic because he gave in to his uh desires inner desires that you yourself are saying you couldn't give in so when we don't do like that like we create a shadow that it's the problem with the oldest son yeah he stayed with the father he did everything that the father he supposed the father wanted him to do but he was very resentful full of envy and uh jealousy uh towards the the youngest uh son but uh so it's kind of complex because we are saying also that The Prodigal Son and you know how badly he did because he was not go leaving his father house because he wanted to be an artist he left like he he in a sense he kind of killed the father Yes because uh the inheritance was not his the father was alive correct so it would be something to do something as you said no but I will stand up for your uh you know dreams and Things No I want to be this and that I will because this is the Journey of the hero we say trying to in the in sometimes we are going we are going to have to betray our father and mother expectations towards us to be uh you know um what we are supposed to be in this life but it's not always easy because we have of course the ego sometimes uh you know we do we would have to face them when we are teenagers

us to be uh you know um what we are supposed to be in this life but it's not always easy because we have of course the ego sometimes uh you know we do we would have to face them when we are teenagers and sometimes it's not possible right so we go through life doing the best we can to deal with these issues in family but important thing is that it was not only a dynamic in the family we have to understand that was Jesus talking about this story this Parable so he was not talking to the e ego not only and not especially not in that moment to the ego and the complexes of the people uh he was talking about the um to the higher selves of the people and understand the moral values the respect that we have to have towards each other the understand the compassion the love uh the responsibility that we need to we need to have towards our um Elders towards you know others towards the family that it's very important we reincarnate uh in the people with the people that we need to be okay to learn with them so I know we are getting close to to this uh I think we are going to have to show to to the next episode to show rbr's picture to talk with people because this is very deep and I know it it moves a lot everyone but I wanted to for people to understand that accepting yes uh the difficulties the flaws of uh the children the sons for instance and we are talking remember people it's symbolic yeah so at the same time that uh he was giving an example of how to be loving and compassionate father and mother remember it's the the two energy forces of the Spirit uh feminine and masculine at the same time he was doing that he was saying also he was talking about the unification the individual the process of individuation to us to be whole to be you know unified in a sense and to better balance the opposition um the opposite forces within ourselves the forces that make conflict because remember our structure here in this world is still very bipolar with polarities so this like good and evil so

e opposition um the opposite forces within ourselves the forces that make conflict because remember our structure here in this world is still very bipolar with polarities so this like good and evil so how do we heal the parts of ourselves that are evil let's say evil in a sense uh you know jealous the Pains of the Soul jealousy hatred resentment selfishness and things like the brothers the two brothers have shown in the story through love to acceptance of this shadow that it's within all of us and Humanity because otherwise we wouldn't have wars we wouldn't fight with our brothers and sisters especially even if we think we are not fighting but you know putting silly remarks and aggressive remarks in social medias and with friends and family we would listen better to each other and do like the father in The protal Son Parable uh accept the return you know when somebody um tells us sorry I I made a mistake and even if some uh someone cannot tell that uh because you know it hasn't realized yet as the prodigal didn't have the um for instance uh the hasn't had the Insight that has made some but we forgive before the person that has heard us had the insight and even before the person has asked asked us for forgiveness so I know we have to finish this I invite everyone for the second episode especially we will hope that J can be with us and we can the rbr's picture so we can go deeper uh in this uh analysis let's say of this beautiful Parable yes so just for all of you who have maybe some curiosity I give in to my father I became an architect I never ever um really worked as an architect and I went on not in art as a as a painter but I did a MERS in art history so somebody who studied history the history of art deeply um it is a joy for me to spend some time looking at a beautiful painting like this one by rebron and see if we can all become a little bit of art critics not in this is good or bad but let's look deeply into that painting so that we can Journey just like rebron did in to the

ke this one by rebron and see if we can all become a little bit of art critics not in this is good or bad but let's look deeply into that painting so that we can Journey just like rebron did in to the symbolic elements of this Parable but with that I want to say we are indeed a Time thank you so much for bringing to us the idea of the archetypes found in the story right the the primordial archetype the Father the the archetype of the brothers and of the the Sun and we can uh definitely come back again next time to to dive deeper into the story and share our beautiful R bronze painting with everyone but if this is the first time you listen to this program just a reminder the psychology and spirituality weekly talks are based as you heard many of us referencing right the works by Joanna deangeles and uh we do hope that you're able to perhaps expand your own spiritual concepts by just opposing them in this psych psychological landens we want to absolutely thank our sponsors without them we wouldn't be here so mon Cino the United States Spirits Federation the international spiritous Council and last but not least un Brazil the Brazilian arm of the medical spiritist association I hope you're back next time when we wrap up this discussion on the parable of the Prodigal Son thank you very much for you and I and everyone here today bye- bye byebye see you next episode