Ep 1 - Psychology and Spirituality | Premier
The Psychology and Spirituality weekly talks are based on the works by Joanna de Angelis and offer a safe space to confront, compare, correlate, and expand spirituality concepts from a psychological lens, bringing insights, actionable tips, and real-world advice to help you lead a better life. Jussara Korngold, Secretary General of the International Spiritist Council and Vice President of the United States Spiritist Federation, launches the initiative to discuss concepts found in the Psychological Series, written by Joanna de Angelis with the collaboration by Divaldo Pereira Franco. In this podcast-like discussions we find the spiritual and psychological resources to enable the process of self awareness, discovery and spiritual renewal. Program is sponsored by: AME Brasil - www.amebrasil.org.br Mansão de Caminho - www.mansaodocaminho.com.br International Spiritist Council - www.cei-spiritistcouncil.com United States Spiritist Federation - www.spiritist.us
foreign it is with great joy in our hearts that we are here today starting this new study that we call Joanna in English I am God I live in the U.S I'm currently the General Secretary of the international spiritus Council vice president and a former president of the United States spiritual Federation and like many of you I have a passion for everything that is related to Joanna DeAngelis this Noble spirit that has inspired us to disseminate her message throughout the world and this is what we are starting today with the help of so many friends that we are going to be introducing to you and we hope you will like and we will join us and most of all we'll benefit from the teachings the lessons that Juana de angelis brings to us I also would like to make a mention that Juana de Angeles can be translated to us because of the valdo Pereira Franco so it's thanks to him that we have hard works that we have the knowledge of her experience and everything that can help us to live a full life but to start our program I would like to introduce to you the person that is behind us Angeles and everyone is behind her that is and he's going to be introducing himself hello Joseph hello everyone a warm welcome to all of you who are watching this video it is with great joy that we are together to participate in this beautiful Project based on the psychological series by Joanna DeAngelis I am a psychologist jungian analyst I work with the spiritus Medical Association of Rio Grande desul I am also a member of the spiritist Medical Association of Brazil where I coordinate the group focusing on psychology and spiritism in AME Brazil I also work with the Brazilian spiritist Federation of masal the Camino along with the valdo Franco and I organize the activities study groups on the psychological series not only in Brazil as well as in Europe and other countries at this moment we are here together to propose a new initiative that is quite beautiful to study the psychological series of Joanna DeAngelis in English
Brazil as well as in Europe and other countries at this moment we are here together to propose a new initiative that is quite beautiful to study the psychological series of Joanna DeAngelis in English and to find there the spiritual and Psychological Resources to enable the process of self-awareness Discovery and spiritual renewal I welcome all to this new project to jasara thank you so much Chelsea and I was just think about this collaboration that we are having Brazil UK us having all of us you know together Gathering here to give this voice of Joanna to the world Marcia hi everyone I want to to thank you thank you Jason for introducing Joanna to all of us and now I would like to ask each one of us to tell us a little bit about who you are and how has Joanna DeAngelis impacted you personally is that okay so I'm gonna ask Anna E to start and I can I start with you and if you could just spend a few minutes introducing your journey and who you are and um how has Joanna impacted you hello everyone so I'm an iPhone 6 I'm speaking from Brazil portalege together with Gelson and I'm a psychiatrist and I'm a young analyst a teaching analyst and for many years I have had a freudent training and at some point in my journey I think as all of you I found a young and Joanna actually Joanna first and then young and Gelson helped me a lot in this path because I was the vice president of the spiritus medical association in my state and um as a psychiatrist at some point I realized that with all my Freud and training I wasn't really able to deal with people's Faith beliefs you know and religions because freuden as you know the frightened trainer doesn't give give you this um these tools you know to go deeper inside our psyche and our souls so I was very thankful uh to jail soon when he started teaching I was with him many many years ago and when he was teaching Joanna here in our state and I can tell you that it changed not only my personal life my but my professional life because you wanna really opens
s with him many many years ago and when he was teaching Joanna here in our state and I can tell you that it changed not only my personal life my but my professional life because you wanna really opens open doors she opens doors indoors in within our souls and we are able to reach depths in our psyche that we are not able with other lines of work in psychological fields so um I got a lot of strength with Joanna a lot of uh understanding better understanding of our functioning of the purposes that why we are here and don't we all need this meaning the search for meaning is spirituality so what are we doing here what are our uh our purpose in life what um you know are our sacred Story Each one of us that really defines us and our mission here so Joanna opens this open lots of doors within ourselves and because of all this strength I can tell it was not easy because my state is very Freud in the psychiatrist but I was able to little by little to bring the research and in spirituality and religion and I found it here in our Psychiatry Association of our state a department of Psychiatry and spirituality uh that it that was something that even I didn't believe I was doing so we know that the mentors the spirits are with us when we can achieve things that we couldn't think about before or believe that it would be possible and also because of jail so Joanna and and Jung I was we were able to have a department of analytical psychology and spirituality within the Brazilian uh jungian Association of Brazil that I coordinate also I'm very grateful that I was given this opportunity in this life very great grateful to be here with you all and I just wanted to remind everyone that it's going to be so exciting to be here with with all of you with the people that are watching us that um the quote I love this quote that Jung says who looks outside dreams who looks inside awakes so I really hope that we are going to awake together and open lots of doors and really have all this answer to all
ote I love this quote that Jung says who looks outside dreams who looks inside awakes so I really hope that we are going to awake together and open lots of doors and really have all this answer to all the effort that Joanna and other mentors in the spirituality are looking for that we evolve as our Consciousness and we evolve as Humanity thank you so much oh let's continue to introduce ourselves and I would like to perhaps have in Sinclair come here tell us a little bit about her and how has Joanna DeAngelis impacted her thank you so much Anne hi um my name is Anne and Sinclair I'm speaking from the UK from Hertfordshire just north of London uh hello to everybody yes I am I came across the Joanna DeAngelis over 30 years ago and my journey is quite different to the very um how can I say why isn't professional jealous mine is a more Simple Story um I I started studying spiritism over 30 years ago as I said and within about few a few months that I started studying here in a little study group that an Antarctic study group here in London I was invited to to interpret a talk by diwalto Franco who now we know is the the medium through which uh Joanna Genesis has written all these books um because I was bilingual they said maybe you can try and interpret his his talk I said okay I'll give it a go I went there I knew very little about spiritism uh I didn't have a very wide culture devout was very patient with me and he went teaching me slowly what the the contents of the spiritus teachings and also what gerona DeAngelis was starting to write at the time which were her psychological books and I went buying these books over the years so that collected them and I'd opened them from time to time and have a look and say oh my gosh it's it seems like the words they're simple words it seems like I can read it but I don't understand it they put it away a few years later I collected all the books and I dip into them I said I felt like I wanted to understand but I felt it was I didn't have a key
I can read it but I don't understand it they put it away a few years later I collected all the books and I dip into them I said I felt like I wanted to understand but I felt it was I didn't have a key and it was a blessing when uh Gelson started doing the groups there in Portuguese online and started studying with us and we could ask questions and he started breaking it up into little pieces into which finally I could start to pick them up and say aha yes I I this makes sense to me and then I can understand a little bit here and a little bit there and slowly putting the dots together so my message to you is don't be afraid if at the beginning it all seems very daunting if you feel that it's beyond you it's just like slowly you know you make the beach with each little Pebble of sand each little green so start collecting the little grains and before you know it you have a stretch list for me is a presence of a teacher a teacher of light I know that lots of people use this image of her as a nun I don't connect to that kind of image and when I think of her when I pray and and I when I feel her presence for me it's always a presence of light of love and calm it's everything is okay she's always like if I'm in a panic she is that cool breeze that comes and says why are you worrying everything is okay if you make mistakes that's okay if you don't know that's okay everything is a process from everything you learn and when you say oh my gosh and you know I made so many mistakes she said we all make mistakes when we are in the earth in the flesh he said when we come into the flesh we come into the mist and we get lost sometimes in the Mist but when we leave the flesh it's like we lift out of the Mist and we can see things with greater Clarity she said it's like that for all of us and she includes herself so she is such a beautiful presence because she's not judging any of us she's just extending her hand and saying come on let's walk we can all walk at our own pace welcome oh thank
he includes herself so she is such a beautiful presence because she's not judging any of us she's just extending her hand and saying come on let's walk we can all walk at our own pace welcome oh thank you Anna what a what a wonderful testimony to all of us but I would like to hear also from Fabricio uh Fabricio can you tell us a little bit about your journey who you are and your journey with Joanna thank you Madison and hello everyone um greetings from England um I'm so happy to be here with our Joanna's family which is such a privilege to be talking about Joanna and expanding Jonas family and that is exactly what happened when I talk about my passion about surana um about eight years ago I started to coordinate a study group with Joanna and um so well okay maybe it's going to be just a group here in England um where I coordinate the spiritual Society of Bournemouth and we started study um the first Johannesburg and um I didn't actually realize that our family was going to grow so much so started off with a small group in England and then the group started growing and then we started reaching out to all our friends across Europe and then other friends in Australia in America and over the world and um it's so for me I feel quite emotional actually because talking about Jonah it is it it's make me feel so happy because she is a spirit that brought so many answers for my questions and that's how I wanted to study this whole psychological series of books written by Davido Franco and um the more I study the more I understand um the importance of us to discover more and more about ourselves and the psychological Book of Jonah Jones will give you exactly what we need to discover and learn about ourselves so I would like to welcome everyone to this initiative and we've been doing studies groups in Portuguese and now is our next steps now to be delivering this in English so I'm very happy to be part of this big family here called Jonas in English thank you very much that's awesome isn't it well
Portuguese and now is our next steps now to be delivering this in English so I'm very happy to be part of this big family here called Jonas in English thank you very much that's awesome isn't it well um I think next I would like to hear from Kirsten Demello Kirsten can you tell us a little bit about who you are how you met Joanna DeAngelis and how has she and her books impacted you specifically yes hello everyone thank you for allowing me to be here my name is Kirsten and I am from the US and my experience with Joanna DeAngelis um spans over I'd say maybe close to two decades but my most memorable um that I could share very briefly is some personal anecdote when I was a teenager and I had gone through something very traumatic and I had gone to the scene givaldo and who who knew nothing uh obviously um he was in a different state went to visit him here in the U.S and uh when I went to see him immediately Joanna had a message for me um and I already had a connection with her through her books that just sort of solidified even more my connection with her and the things that the message that was relayed to me sergiovaldo from her so it's her literature it's her books spiritism in general really but through her literature has turned on lights in Dark Places so hoping to do the same for others just across the globe so thank you all so much thank you thank you Kirsten love to hear from everybody here and Fabricio and Kirsten and I think I forgot to introduce myself so my name is Mercia trezano I I am from Brazil so like Ann I am bilingual um so I was introduced first with Joanna in Portuguese but uh have um facilitated uh classes and discussions of her books in English and Portuguese in the past year I've been facilitating mostly in English through the group that has been recently formed the group that I coordinate with others um the Solitude Spirit Center and uh with that we we find this initiative just truly touching And Timely and perhaps even urgent how do we bring all
ntly formed the group that I coordinate with others um the Solitude Spirit Center and uh with that we we find this initiative just truly touching And Timely and perhaps even urgent how do we bring all of as you heard in this testimonials right all the goodness that each in one each and every one of us find with Joanna DeAngelo's teachings to us to you in English but what is the program you asked me the program is a 12-month program where a naive and all the folks from the medical spiritus association and uh all the work that she also go back to as you heard from him has been doing will bring to you a very in-depth study in English of those psychological Concepts that are brought to you through the several books written in that series we will do that once a month and we will also come back and we who have been studying we who have been touched we who love Joanna so much will come back and we'll discuss those concepts with our language with our lens as human beings as Christians as spiritist as a good friend that we want to be with you um how did we start this well as you can see we have folks from all over the place uh the commonality is Joanna and the second commonality is in the English language we are together with institutions that are based in Brazil specific quickly what do we call Ami which is the medical spiritus association in Brazil we have the um the presence of Jose as the Secretary General of the International spiritus Center we have an in fabasio representing the work in the UK spiritist work specifically to their organizations UCB and Kirsten are representing uh individuals in the U.S who will be there along with jasada so I really want to to go over a little bit longer I hope you are um a little patient with me because I wanted to say to you that this this program it's it's really um a program that is broken down into 12 modules that begins with Joanna DeAngelis biography her spiritual path uh the second program will be about the psychology with this Soul the
m it's it's really um a program that is broken down into 12 modules that begins with Joanna DeAngelis biography her spiritual path uh the second program will be about the psychology with this Soul the relationship between psychology and spiritism and Joanna's proposal we keep going with the the the the themes they are found in the psychological Series in their uh 17 books there and we we have a couple of uh programs with that and then we keep on going weaving through not only a podcast like discussion with us but also giving yourself time to send us your questions and we will uh discuss them in in a live uh questions uh q a for you so as you can see we have a lot of work in front of us we are excited um Joanna DeAngelis is uh is an amazing uh source of peace as uh as Ann mentioned is a passion a source for passion as Fabricio mentioned it's source of light as Christian said so all of us are touched in different ways we want to say thank you for being here with us and before we close I want to ask if anyone would like to give a final words before we conclude today's live hi Marcia I would like to say something as well first of all again to thank our friends our brothers and sisters and so on at the angelis the spiritus Medical Association and from Mauricio and and Sinclair that are from Individual spiritual centers in the UK for Kirsten Danielle that is behind the scene as well and you and myself that also represent United States spiritus Federation and also representing the international spiritus Council and I would like to share with you also my a little bit of my journey which one of the angels I I have been the blessing to to be a spirit since I was a child and um of course my my first Passion was was and it still is Alan Karthik um then I I found out about you know other books uh books by Chico savior like books from Emmanuel and and Andrea Lewis and then I I discovered um also the books by devaldo berrero Franco and when I started um reading more the the works the
er books uh books by Chico savior like books from Emmanuel and and Andrea Lewis and then I I discovered um also the books by devaldo berrero Franco and when I started um reading more the the works the psychographers that came from from divado I of course my first introduction to Joanna DeAngelis was who was was not okay because it was so beyond my reach I I was a stereo I don't I don't even know I I was 20 already and uh and I found in parallel I found the the words of Manuel Philomena Gomez and uh I I I fell in love with him as well and he started studying with him and then uh so many people would come to me and talk about her about her works and I said you know what I I don't think I can understand just one of the Angeles and so I was each time more just uh you know my reference in terms of devaldo was Joanna d'angelism until I moved to London and uh while there and having the this ability of you know being more often with devout or including you know our friend here I am doing the translation that helped tremendously everyone so I start little by little to you know um and to understand a little a bit more and I think it was only about 25 years ago that I finally was maybe for sure more mature to start understanding the concepts and um and that was happening of course in stage and uh was about 15 years ago that I personally started a study group of our works within our possibilities of course the something that here we are going to to to go in in a more much more profound way so I that was my journey you know the light from the spirit is is so immense the the Simplicity of the words that she brings to us but at the same time the complexity the the complex uh Concepts and uh in in something that touches us so much because it touches about our inner self about our inner core about our transformation and so there are times that some people I have already heard that say you know oh I'll study it's just like you know I'm not a spiritist because it is not card deck because it's not Chico And I say maybe
so there are times that some people I have already heard that say you know oh I'll study it's just like you know I'm not a spiritist because it is not card deck because it's not Chico And I say maybe like myself you are still not understanding that Juana di Angeli is pure is spiritism because she brings about and she helps us she give us the way to do what's the most important thing in spiritism which is to better ourselves the moral loss everything that we have in the Gospel According to Spirit is the the messages of the spirits that we have in heaven and hell to understand the grandiosity of the creation of the universe like we have in Genesis so she comes and says and helps us in this journey of self-discover and of course of you know have having courage to go on and to keep in this journey so you all are invited to be with us and before we finish our presentation today of thanking everyone I would like to hear if there is someone that would like to add anything to this first encounter with Joanna in English just said that I would like to say a little some words uh after you said and because as an as a psychiatrist and an analyst um I can tell you that I have I had already been working when I found Joanna as a psychiatrist and a Freudian uh with my Freudian training and I can tell you that I myself was overwhelmed okay this is not for people to get afraid or you know think it's so difficult uh but it's um like we had at some point deconstruct we could say some of our pre-concepts so you know hardly in uh built when we are medical personnel and when we are researching researchers so I can tell you that it's not about so much about Concepts don't be afraid because I myself was afraid but then I realized at some point that to understand Joanna and I can tell you because I'm a living proof of that I had to deconstruct my pre-concepts you know intellectual pre-concepts um it was hard but then I learned something that was very very precious in my line of work the work with myself and
roof of that I had to deconstruct my pre-concepts you know intellectual pre-concepts um it was hard but then I learned something that was very very precious in my line of work the work with myself and with my patients uh because to understand Joanna you need only one uh organ let's say in your body it's the heart it's not the mind the the brain it's the heart I loved what Ann said about Joanna being a teacher of light and this light and this love is within all of us so to understand Joanna is not that much hard um because it is hard if you say I'll have to learn the concept I have to understand but when we calm our minds and we do exactly as Ann said I'm not I'm not going to try to understand anything I'm going to try to listen with my heart then we start to understanding everything that she's saying because the concepts are are just tools you know for understanding here with the ego but really learning Joanna is opening doors within our souls so all the truth of what we are is within ourselves she's just helping us to connect with the knowledge that we already have we are light beings we are here to learn to remember that we are like beings and from where we are all coming into where are we going back so I just wanted to say that don't be afraid don't get scared with all the names and the the concepts just listen with your heart we are always going to be okay and we will find this wonderful teacher of light as and said that she is helping us just to reconnect with ourselves that's what I wanted to tell you thank you thank you thank you thank you Sarah less chance anyone else want to say something I would like to say something very quickly just to pick up for any um just mentioned that is something that resonates so well with myself um when I was studying the books and I I'm studying psychology and when we study an academic subject it's very much how much your brain can absorb those Theory and then when I'm studying with um uh Joanna I I the approach to study journey is different it's not how
nd when we study an academic subject it's very much how much your brain can absorb those Theory and then when I'm studying with um uh Joanna I I the approach to study journey is different it's not how engaged in your brain with those books but how you connect your brain before you're reading on those books and uh I when he was mentioned I felt oh my God this happened is so well with me because when I'm reading an academic book at the University it's psychology but it's not your own psychology and then I try to apply my brain and sometimes I understand but Jonah when I do that it doesn't always work and then when I engage my my heart definitely when the whole teaching will resonate with my heart and make the whole transformation in in my inner so I just want to add that to what I just said this is beautiful thank you thank you all right so I think we are at uh at our rep for this kickoff meeting for Joanna in English I look forward to meeting you all uh in the next the next episode that we come together thank you thank you for your contribution thank you for being here and we look forward to seeing all of you thank you thank you
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